Two Weeks Now of Kindle Touch and I've Learned Something

abookreader · 12-01-2011, 02:41 PM

I really, really love that Kindle Keyboard.

I tried it out. My objections pretty much what I thought they would be. I just don't much like reading with touch screen devices. I accidentally turn pages. I accidentally skip to the next chapter. I want a page turn button to rest my finger on. I try to adjust the font and I end up highlighting words and looking them up in the dictionary instead. Mostly, I'm hopeless.

It just hit me today that I should just get another of the keyboard device that I loved, while I can still buy one, rather than continue to make myself like this one. Because I'm pretty sure that in the next couple of years, touchscreens will probably be all that is available. Plus, I already own a Kindle Keyboard lighted cover that is just sitting here empty and unloved. New Kindle Keyboard will be here tomorrow.

And I'll be able to put the pictures of my kids back on with the screensaver hacks and I'll be able to use the Calibre Collection Plug-in again.

DiapDealer · 12-01-2011, 02:59 PM

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I tried it out. My objections pretty much what I thought they would be. I just don't much like reading with touch screen devices. I accidentally turn pages. I accidentally skip to the next chapter. I want a page turn button to rest my finger on. I try to adjust the font and I end up highlighting words and looking them up in the dictionary instead. Mostly, I'm hopeless.

I know this this would happen to me too. It's why I'm not willing to go there—even for a trial run. Buttons don't have to decide what I want from them; they just know. Buttons don't ask to be tickled, tapped, swiped, rubbed, or pinched. Just press them and off they go to perform their duty—with clear eyes and open hearts.

Pookeysgirl · 12-01-2011, 03:04 PM

I agree 100%. I can't stand touch screens. I need to feel the buttons under my fingers. Everytime I've used a touch screen it's taken me at least 3 tries to get what I want typed out, and I have fairly small fingers. I wouldn't give up my keyboard for anything.

DustyDisks · 12-01-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I know this this would happen to me too. It's why I'm not willing to go there—even for a trial run. Buttons don't have to decide what I want from them; they just know. Buttons don't ask to be tickled, tapped, swiped, rubbed, or pinched. Just press them and off they go to perform their duty—with clear eyes and open hearts.

You forgot, "Fondling".

shinew · 12-01-2011, 03:12 PM

I also prefer actual button for page turning. But in general I think a touch interface(even for eInk devices) is the future, it's just a more natural and intuitive way to interact with the contents and most of the options.

I think Kindle touch's design execution has not been perfected yet but a nice V1 device. At the least they should've included some hardware buttons for page turning as an alternative, and maybe a simple/handy way to lock the screen without having to put it into sleep mode.

shinew · 12-01-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookeysgirl

I agree 100%. I can't stand touch screens. I need to feel the buttons under my fingers. Everytime I've used a touch screen it's taken me at least 3 tries to get what I want typed out, and I have fairly small fingers. I wouldn't give up my keyboard for anything.

not familiar with Kobo(assume that's what you have). But I find the the Kindle Touch's keyboard to be excellent. Both accurate and responsive. So that might not be a touchscreen issue.

monkeyluis · 12-01-2011, 03:14 PM

I love the kindle touch. It has worked perfect for me. Sorry about your experience. .

tomsem · 12-01-2011, 04:02 PM

I am really liking my KT, would never go back. But I had already logged hundreds of hours on other touch screen devices.

Using a touch interface is a skill, it just takes a little time to reach a comfort level and adjust to the interface in question. And by the same token, I can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit the Back button on my K3 when trying to operate the 5way, before finally getting the feel of it. It did not help that I'd been using my K2 for well over a year before that. Just sayin'.

I would also argue that KT is more intuitive, immersive, and more 'like reading a real book,' at least what I find.

BTW check out the Colbert review of the new Steve Jobs book. Very funny.

SCION · 12-01-2011, 04:03 PM

If it weren't for the Touch, I wouldn't own a Kindle. I'm glad they got with the program. I sold my Kindle 1 after a few months of owning it, because there was no way to organize content. Went to Sony and have been hooked on eInk touch screens ever since. It's the main reason I passed on the DXG at the $259 sale price a few days ago. If it were touch, I could have overlooked the other shortcomings for sure. I'd be willing to pay the normal price for a touch DX.

mewmartigan · 12-01-2011, 04:22 PM

I am loving the Kindle Touch and and happy to have it over the KK. Before that, I had a K4 and would prefer that over the KK too.

I thought I would prefer the physical page turn buttons but i am really liking the touch to turn and swipe to move pages on the home screen.
Also loving the new lighted cover.

Very happy with my upgrade but I realize it isn't for everyone. I am glad that Amazon thought to keep the Kindle Keyboard going

volwrath · 12-01-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

If it weren't for the Touch, I wouldn't own a Kindle. I'm glad they got with the program. I sold my Kindle 1 after a few months of owning it, because there was no way to organize content. Went to Sony and have been hooked on eInk touch screens ever since. It's the main reason I passed on the DXG at the $259 sale price a few days ago. If it were touch, I could have overlooked the other shortcomings for sure. I'd be willing to pay the normal price for a touch DX.

I agree with you for the most part. I would own the Nook STR if the KT had not come out (probably running the amazon app

) I do think that Amazon has some work to do on the KT, interface wise, as well as option wise. Hopefully firmware will take care of this. Overall I think the STR is a nicer ereader, with more functionality, better hackability and much better pdf support Being built on android certainly has its benefits.

The KT on the otherhand is rather bland, with the exception of xray. The amazon ecosystem with whispersync has me locked in, however and at the end of the day, the KT is a very efficient mobi ereader and i am happy I sold my KK and upgraded to the KT.

SCION · 12-01-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by volwrath

I agree with you for the most part. I would own the Nook STR if the KT had not come out (probably running the amazon app

) I do think that Amazon has some work to do on the KT, interface wise, as well as option wise. Overall I think the STR is a nicer ereader, with more functionality, better hackability and much better pdf support Being built on android certainly has its benefits.

The KT on the otherhand is rather bland, with the exception of xray. The amazon ecosystem with whispersync has me locked in, however and at the end of the day, the KT is a very efficient mobi ereader and i am happy I sold my KK and upgraded to the KT.

I did the NOOK STR thing for a few months. Left it for Kobo. The homescreen is a dud (for me) and I really don't find the squat shape comfortable to hold. The recess in the back doesn't do anything for me. But, I overcame that with a cover, so that's not why I bailed. I'm not into hacking eInk devices, so that didn't entice me to stay with it. The biggie for me is being able to sync sideloaded books across the Kindle and Kindle Fire, as I enjoy reading on tablets with a quality screen.

alansplace · 12-01-2011, 04:47 PM

I went to Target yesterday and tried out the demo model. I hate demo software and had found out here on mobileread that using the back button gets you out of the demo software. I had no trouble doing that......then....the trouble started. I wished to try out the on-screen touch keyboard, but could not get it to display the keyboard no matter what I tried. So finally just I gave up trying! I figured out easily enough how to get it back into demo mode and then left. Sheeesh!!

Lordblacknail · 12-01-2011, 05:26 PM

what about leaving fingerprints all over the screen that you are reading from? When I hold my Kindle3, my fingers rest on the page turn buttons. On a KT, do I have to stop reading and poke the screen to get the page to turn? I have an Ipod, and I can't imagine trying to read on it. Call me old fashioned, but I will stick with the keyboard.

David58117 · 12-01-2011, 05:41 PM

What about the Kindle 4 NT? It has the buttons, has the benefit of being smaller than the KK, has a better build quality (KK flexed and felt less solid) - and is cheaper!

12-01-2011, 02:41 PM	#1
abookreader Wizard Posts: 1,516 Karma: 2567610 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD	Two Weeks Now of Kindle Touch and I've Learned Something I really, really love that Kindle Keyboard. I tried it out. My objections pretty much what I thought they would be. I just don't much like reading with touch screen devices. I accidentally turn pages. I accidentally skip to the next chapter. I want a page turn button to rest my finger on. I try to adjust the font and I end up highlighting words and looking them up in the dictionary instead. Mostly, I'm hopeless. It just hit me today that I should just get another of the keyboard device that I loved, while I can still buy one, rather than continue to make myself like this one. Because I'm pretty sure that in the next couple of years, touchscreens will probably be all that is available. Plus, I already own a Kindle Keyboard lighted cover that is just sitting here empty and unloved. New Kindle Keyboard will be here tomorrow. And I'll be able to put the pictures of my kids back on with the screensaver hacks and I'll be able to use the Calibre Collection Plug-in again.

12-01-2011, 03:12 PM	#5
shinew Addict Posts: 309 Karma: 1008082 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Device: Kindle PW, K4 Touch, iPad2, Samsung Galaxy S II	I also prefer actual button for page turning. But in general I think a touch interface(even for eInk devices) is the future, it's just a more natural and intuitive way to interact with the contents and most of the options. I think Kindle touch's design execution has not been perfected yet but a nice V1 device. At the least they should've included some hardware buttons for page turning as an alternative, and maybe a simple/handy way to lock the screen without having to put it into sleep mode. Last edited by shinew; 12-01-2011 at 03:16 PM.

12-01-2011, 04:03 PM	#9
SCION Séduisant Posts: 4,706 Karma: 2107018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas, USA Device: Boox Note Air2+; Kobo Libra2; Kindle Scribe, Oasis3; iPad Mini6	If it weren't for the Touch, I wouldn't own a Kindle. I'm glad they got with the program. I sold my Kindle 1 after a few months of owning it, because there was no way to organize content. Went to Sony and have been hooked on eInk touch screens ever since. It's the main reason I passed on the DXG at the $259 sale price a few days ago. If it were touch, I could have overlooked the other shortcomings for sure. I'd be willing to pay the normal price for a touch DX. Last edited by SCION; 12-01-2011 at 04:09 PM.

12-01-2011, 04:47 PM	#13
alansplace Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,886 Karma: 464403178 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: 33.9388° N, 117.2716° W Device: Kindles K-2, K-KB, PW 1 & 2, Voyage, Fire 2, 5 & HD 8, Surface 3, iPad	Two Weeks Now of Kindle Touch and I've Learned Something I went to Target yesterday and tried out the demo model. I hate demo software and had found out here on mobileread that using the back button gets you out of the demo software. I had no trouble doing that......then....the trouble started. I wished to try out the on-screen touch keyboard, but could not get it to display the keyboard no matter what I tried. So finally just I gave up trying! I figured out easily enough how to get it back into demo mode and then left. Sheeesh!!

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12-01-2011, 03:04 PM	#3
Pookeysgirl Wizard Posts: 1,705 Karma: 12696746 Join Date: May 2010 Device: K3, Kobo Mini	I agree 100%. I can't stand touch screens. I need to feel the buttons under my fingers. Everytime I've used a touch screen it's taken me at least 3 tries to get what I want typed out, and I have fairly small fingers. I wouldn't give up my keyboard for anything.

12-01-2011, 03:14 PM	#7
monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	I love the kindle touch. It has worked perfect for me. Sorry about your experience. .

12-01-2011, 04:02 PM	#8
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,502 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	I am really liking my KT, would never go back. But I had already logged hundreds of hours on other touch screen devices. Using a touch interface is a skill, it just takes a little time to reach a comfort level and adjust to the interface in question. And by the same token, I can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit the Back button on my K3 when trying to operate the 5way, before finally getting the feel of it. It did not help that I'd been using my K2 for well over a year before that. Just sayin'. I would also argue that KT is more intuitive, immersive, and more 'like reading a real book,' at least what I find. BTW check out the Colbert review of the new Steve Jobs book. Very funny.

12-01-2011, 04:22 PM	#10
mewmartigan Guru Posts: 852 Karma: 8242060 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Kindle Oasis (2019)	I am loving the Kindle Touch and and happy to have it over the KK. Before that, I had a K4 and would prefer that over the KK too. I thought I would prefer the physical page turn buttons but i am really liking the touch to turn and swipe to move pages on the home screen. Also loving the new lighted cover. Very happy with my upgrade but I realize it isn't for everyone. I am glad that Amazon thought to keep the Kindle Keyboard going

12-01-2011, 05:26 PM	#14
Lordblacknail Groupie Posts: 159 Karma: 330000 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Device: Kobo Libre 2 Galaxy Tab S7 Plus Kobo Libre Colour	what about leaving fingerprints all over the screen that you are reading from? When I hold my Kindle3, my fingers rest on the page turn buttons. On a KT, do I have to stop reading and poke the screen to get the page to turn? I have an Ipod, and I can't imagine trying to read on it. Call me old fashioned, but I will stick with the keyboard.

12-01-2011, 05:41 PM	#15
David58117 Groupie Posts: 165 Karma: 1020558 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: Sony T1, K4NT (To Wife), Nook ST, NSTG	What about the Kindle 4 NT? It has the buttons, has the benefit of being smaller than the KK, has a better build quality (KK flexed and felt less solid) - and is cheaper!

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