Accessories PW2 Covers which stand in landscape recs?

BookCat · 05-29-2019, 12:37 PM

I have an old PW2 which still works fine; for a while now, I've felt the need to prop it up and as I prefer reading in landscape, I ordered this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you can see the one and only review, I wrote that. Yep, it props up with the screen upside down when in landscape.

I've contacted the seller.

To prevent this happening again, does anyone know of a good case for the PW2 which props it up in landscape RIGHT WAY UP? (It helps if there's a pic of a cat on it, but that's not necessary.)

I'm also considering the stands, but as I need to keep my reader in a case to protect it against cats, it would be nice to avoid having to find the stand when I need it.

I'm hoping that someone has used and can recommend such a case.

Thanks in advance.

Sol Arkite · 05-29-2019, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookCat

I have an old PW2 which still works fine; for a while now, I've felt the need to prop it up and as I prefer reading in landscape, I ordered this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you can see the one and only review, I wrote that. Yep, it props up with the screen upside down when in landscape.

I don’t understand why amazon withholds features.

If you are jailbroken, koreader does an excellent job of customizing page view among other things.

To the community at large: didn’t there used to be a jailbreak extension that dealt with page view in the standard reader?

j.p.s · 05-29-2019, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookCat

I have an old PW2 which still works fine; for a while now, I've felt the need to prop it up and as I prefer reading in landscape, I ordered this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you can see the one and only review, I wrote that. Yep, it props up with the screen upside down when in landscape.

I've contacted the seller.

To prevent this happening again, does anyone know of a good case for the PW2 which props it up in landscape RIGHT WAY UP? (It helps if there's a pic of a cat on it, but that's not necessary.)

I'm also considering the stands, but as I need to keep my reader in a case to protect it against cats, it would be nice to avoid having to find the stand when I need it.

I'm hoping that someone has used and can recommend such a case.

Thanks in advance.

Someone had the same problem last year, even down to the PW2.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=294662
The solution was to jailbreak the kindle paperwhite

BookCat · 05-29-2019, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.p.s

Someone had the same problem last year, even down to the PW2.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=294662
The solution was to jailbreak the kindle paperwhite

So does this mean that NO ONE has designed a case which works with the way the PW2 flips into landscape? It must be so easy to design with, for example, a flap-like stand which originates at the back of the reader case and is attached to the "spine" area. Or one which uses the 'tent' effect of bending the cover back on itself but provides an attached 'platform' for stabilisation. It's not rocket science.

A quick google, which I've spent an hour doing, has shown that there's a call for this.

I'd be more inclined to buy a separate stand than jailbreak. I'm just not techie enough.

Deskisamess · 05-29-2019, 03:40 PM

Any regular cover I've ever used can be propped, tent like, with the Kindle in landscape mode, so I can read while sitting at the dining room table, etc.

That said, some wouldn't be terribly stable if the table were bumped. These covers are the snap in type. The only cover I've had that wouldn't stay propped was the cover designed for that little basic Kindle with the 5 buttons across the bottom bezel, but the cover was junk all around.

BookCat · 05-29-2019, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

Any regular cover I've ever used can be propped, tent like, with the Kindle in landscape mode, so I can read while sitting at the dining room table, etc.

That said, some wouldn't be terribly stable if the table were bumped. These covers are the snap in type. The only cover I've had that wouldn't stay propped was the cover designed for that little basic Kindle with the 5 buttons across the bottom bezel, but the cover was junk all around.

The nice Finitie case which I've been using for a while bends backwards, but won't stand that way. It slips until the whole thing is lying down. Lately, I've been propping it against things, which is why I was looking for a stand-case.

Sol Arkite · 05-29-2019, 03:55 PM

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=206443
Wouldn’t this be useful listed in the kual extensions listing.

BookCat · 05-29-2019, 04:06 PM

From what I've been reading, I think my firmware is too recent to jailbreak. It's: 5.9.7.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking? If this has been detailed thousands of times, please direct me to the correct place.
Thanks.

Sol Arkite · 05-29-2019, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookCat

From what I've been reading, I think my firmware is too recent to jailbreak. It's: 5.9.7.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking? If this has been detailed thousands of times, please direct me to the correct place.
Thanks.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...tage+jailbreak

I added my 2cents in that thread.

HarryT · 05-30-2019, 02:34 AM

If all else fails, you could take the low-tech approach and just prop it up against a cup or something similar.

I suspect that relatively few people want to prop their Kindles up at all while reading, hence the lack of stands.

BookCat · 05-30-2019, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

If all else fails, you could take the low-tech approach and just prop it up against a cup or something similar.

I suspect that relatively few people want to prop their Kindles up at all while reading, hence the lack of stands.

Often I drink hot chocolate or eat a sandwich while reading

so have been trying the 'propping up' for a while, which was why I wanted a stand-case.

While googling for recommendations, came across many asking the same question on forums such as Reddit, mostly because they read in bed.

They'd also experienced the inverted landscape issue.

Have been reading through the Jailbreak link posted above (thanks) and have not yet seen a compelling reason to do this, for me, anyway. Will read the entire thread, but at the moment am considering something like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01NB9G1...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Have several of these listed, but this one appeals because of the (to me) pretty colour. Am hoping to use it with the PW2 in its cover. Has anyone had experience with one? What did you think? Finding it when needed might be an annoyance, but I'll put it in my reader accessories bag.

Would love some feedback about these please.

BookCat · 05-30-2019, 05:53 AM

I'm infuriated by the response I've received from the seller.

My original message:

"I bought this item because of the pretty cats on a wall design. I wanted to be able to prop up my paperwhite in landscape, as this is how I prefer reading. However, when I do this the page is upside down.

As this wasn't a cheap cover, could you please tell me if there's a remedy for this, or maybe send one which does the job?

Regards,"

Their reply:

"We are so sorry for this inconvenience. You know, the reading page of kindle paperwhite is not flipped with your viewing angle. So this cover has no quality problems. If you want to be able to prop up your kindle paperwhite in landscape, we recommend that you choose another cover style in our store. you could search it by following ASIN: B07F2VDQRB. We will provide you 50% discount.
If you have any other idea, please feel free to contact us, we will always be here with you.
We are looking forward to your reply.

Best Regards.
OST Service Team"

The one they recommend is in PORTRAIT, not landscape. And I expected a FULL refund. Off to WAR!

BookCat · 05-30-2019, 06:16 AM

I'm dealing with a Chinese company and suspect their English isn't wonderful, so I replied:

"I am disgusted by your response. This case is not fit for purpose!

I bought it to stand the reader in LANDSCAPE, which it does not do because the text is UPSIDE DOWN! Please learn what is meant by 'landscape'.

Therefore, the case cannot do what you claim and I expect a FULL REFUND!"

Don't they actually put a Paperwhite into their covers when designing them? It would be handy if they made sure the cover worked.

HarryT · 05-30-2019, 07:06 AM

I hope you get a favourable outcome. If you bought this case from Amazon, I'd contact Amazon customer service and request a refund.

Deskisamess · 05-30-2019, 08:43 AM

The way those cases are designed means the device can't be propped. They would need the swivel option that many tablet covers use. Since some Kindle models limit the screen rotation to only one direction, unless you can put the Kindle in the device "upside down" they simply won't work correctly.

If you could put the Kindle in the case upside down, the fold edge would end up on the right side. It would be like holding a book upside down, binding wise.

The 2018 Oasis can rotate all 4 ways, so a cover like the one posted could be used. You manually change the orientation, then the device screen flips as you turn the device.

05-29-2019, 12:37 PM	#1
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	PW2 Covers which stand in landscape recs? I have an old PW2 which still works fine; for a while now, I've felt the need to prop it up and as I prefer reading in landscape, I ordered this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 If you can see the one and only review, I wrote that. Yep, it props up with the screen upside down when in landscape. I've contacted the seller. To prevent this happening again, does anyone know of a good case for the PW2 which props it up in landscape RIGHT WAY UP? (It helps if there's a pic of a cat on it, but that's not necessary.) I'm also considering the stands, but as I need to keep my reader in a case to protect it against cats, it would be nice to avoid having to find the stand when I need it. I'm hoping that someone has used and can recommend such a case. Thanks in advance.

05-30-2019, 06:16 AM	#13
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	I'm dealing with a Chinese company and suspect their English isn't wonderful, so I replied: "I am disgusted by your response. This case is not fit for purpose! I bought it to stand the reader in LANDSCAPE, which it does not do because the text is UPSIDE DOWN! Please learn what is meant by 'landscape'. Therefore, the case cannot do what you claim and I expect a FULL REFUND!" Don't they actually put a Paperwhite into their covers when designing them? It would be handy if they made sure the cover worked. Last edited by BookCat; 05-30-2019 at 06:18 AM.

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Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,623 Karma: 42699665 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 7+, iPad mini, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8"	Any regular cover I've ever used can be propped, tent like, with the Kindle in landscape mode, so I can read while sitting at the dining room table, etc. That said, some wouldn't be terribly stable if the table were bumped. These covers are the snap in type. The only cover I've had that wouldn't stay propped was the cover designed for that little basic Kindle with the 5 buttons across the bottom bezel, but the cover was junk all around.

05-29-2019, 03:55 PM	#7
Sol Arkite Zealot Posts: 125 Karma: 30302 Join Date: Oct 2015 Device: KV; PW3 ; PW2 ; k5; KT2	https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=206443 Wouldn’t this be useful listed in the kual extensions listing.

05-29-2019, 04:06 PM	#8
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	From what I've been reading, I think my firmware is too recent to jailbreak. It's: 5.9.7. What are the advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking? If this has been detailed thousands of times, please direct me to the correct place. Thanks.

05-30-2019, 02:34 AM	#10
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	If all else fails, you could take the low-tech approach and just prop it up against a cup or something similar. I suspect that relatively few people want to prop their Kindles up at all while reading, hence the lack of stands.

05-30-2019, 05:53 AM	#12
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	I'm infuriated by the response I've received from the seller. My original message: "I bought this item because of the pretty cats on a wall design. I wanted to be able to prop up my paperwhite in landscape, as this is how I prefer reading. However, when I do this the page is upside down. As this wasn't a cheap cover, could you please tell me if there's a remedy for this, or maybe send one which does the job? Regards," Their reply: "We are so sorry for this inconvenience. You know, the reading page of kindle paperwhite is not flipped with your viewing angle. So this cover has no quality problems. If you want to be able to prop up your kindle paperwhite in landscape, we recommend that you choose another cover style in our store. you could search it by following ASIN: B07F2VDQRB. We will provide you 50% discount. If you have any other idea, please feel free to contact us, we will always be here with you. We are looking forward to your reply. Best Regards. OST Service Team" The one they recommend is in PORTRAIT, not landscape. And I expected a FULL refund. Off to WAR!

05-30-2019, 07:06 AM	#14
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I hope you get a favourable outcome. If you bought this case from Amazon, I'd contact Amazon customer service and request a refund.

05-30-2019, 08:43 AM	#15
Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,623 Karma: 42699665 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 7+, iPad mini, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8"	The way those cases are designed means the device can't be propped. They would need the swivel option that many tablet covers use. Since some Kindle models limit the screen rotation to only one direction, unless you can put the Kindle in the device "upside down" they simply won't work correctly. If you could put the Kindle in the case upside down, the fold edge would end up on the right side. It would be like holding a book upside down, binding wise. The 2018 Oasis can rotate all 4 ways, so a cover like the one posted could be used. You manually change the orientation, then the device screen flips as you turn the device.

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