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A lot of series aren't broadcasted here (not that is a hinderance...), so that means that subtitles are translated. Some are good, others are on the level of Google Translate. Those are hilarious sometimes... I am glad I don't need them.
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08-13-2016, 11:31 AM | #17 |
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I use subtitles a lot, especially with the new shows where they think they have to play music continuously, and as loudly as the dialogue.
As for the carriage returns, undoubtedly it will involve a lot of manual proofing. |
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Now, having said that, yes, I do know that the UK systems and ours, for broadcast, are different, and it's highly likely that it sounds just spiffy there. Well, kids, this ain't the 1950's, and any moron can remix something today, for an international audience. I mean, hell, PBS feels justified in "cutting out" the BAD WORDS (Like, ASS. Really???), and editing it for "time," so that we can scrunch our foreheads and wonder about some plot point that was omitted...and they can't remix the bloody thing, to make the music not absurdly over-loud? (FWIW, I've basically moved over to watching UK and AUS, etc., TV via streaming. Roku, using either Acorn or Netflix or Hulu. At least I don't get my storyline "pre-digested" for me by the bunch of easily-shocked 5th-grade teachers that are doing that at PBS. I confess I haven't tried IL over there, to see if the music is any less onerous, but I'll see if I can spot it and give it a go.) Hitch |
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The airwaves are filled with the "lesser" cursing. All the cable networks, even the bloody Sci-Fi Channel and TNT, which is smack dab in the Bible Belt. If those good folks can take it, surely, the rest of us can. OH, and the butt-erasing? STOP the butt erasing, PLEASE. One more blurred butt will no doubt send me over the edge. Who hasn't seen an ass in their time? </grump> Hitch |
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Every time this gets brought up, I always bust out the same few Regex:
Regex #1 I use this one to catch a hyphen at the end of a paragraph: Search: -</p>\s+<p> Replace: Never do a "Replace All". Look at each of these manually and decide if it is actually a hard hyphen or a soft hyphen. Code:
<p>"This is an example of wrong non-</p> <p>alignment."</p> <p>This is an example of estab-</p> <p>lishing the sentence.</p> This one catches any paragraph that ends in a character NOT in the RED part. In this case, any paragraph that ends WITHOUT a "more than sign" (most likely HTML tags), a "right double quote", a "quotation mark", an "exclamation point", or a "period". (These are valid paragraph endings for the most part). Search: ([^>”\?\!\.])</p>\s+<p> Replace: \1 Note: (Make sure there is a space after "\1 "). Code:
<p>This is an example</p> <p>sentence.</p> <p>“This is an example of</p> dialogue.”</p> <p>This is a long, very long,</p> <p>very very long example.</p> <p>And this is an example of one of Tex's (amazing)</p> <p>Side Notes.</p> Regex #3 Typically a paragraph does not belong with a lowercase letter... so this one catches most stragglers. Search: <p>[a-z] Code:
<p>He picked three out of the hat:</p> <p>one, two, three.</p> This one typically occurs with dialogue... a quotation mark that gets split. Search: ,”</p> Code:
<p>“Hey! Get back over here,”</p> <p>Tex said. “You are a buffoon.”</p> Quote:
https://www.viki.com/ Or I remember running across volunteer subtitling for Youtube videos: https://amara.org/en/ I swear I ran across another one that was similar to Distributed Proofreaders... but I can't seem to find the article/interview in a quick search. I remember the woman started it because her husband was deaf, and the CC + automated subtitles were complete crap. I can't remember for the life of me where I even read the article though. Maybe it was years ago when I was looking into Transcription. Side Note: Or you could always join the "dark side" and join the Fansubbing community. Quote:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...ery-hour.shtml Stuff like this is partially why I don't watch TV any more... it is absolutely unbearable. Last edited by Tex2002ans; 08-14-2016 at 04:44 AM. |
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Yeah. That's one of the ways I'm reminded of the source of the episode I'm watching. If the breasts are blurred on the body on the slab, chances are it's PBS.-) Who do they hire to do the blurring? I wonder how the job interview went.
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This is the 21st C. We have DTV. They all have Sub channels. Frequently they run 4:3 on one, while running 16:9 on the Main (usually the dot 1 ). They could run the untouched version on a sub channel so parents could filter. BTW My pet peeve: "Reformatted to fit your (4:3) screen" That destroys many wide 'effects' the director was presenting. |
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Exactly. It's SUCH Bs.
Between fuzzy asses on actresses and the occasional male (DOUBLE-STANDARD bill****, mind you), the fuzzy boobs, the bleeped or omitted words, and the content clipping/speeding...why on earth should they expect my support? I used to donate to PBS pretty religiously (yes, that pun was intentional....really, it's irony, but..). I've stopped doing so. Largely for all the reasons mentioned, but also, I feel increasingly that if they are getting the airwaves for the PUBLIC GOOD, they should stop being so adamantly left-wing. n.b.: both of the rants that are below, mostly belong in the P&R thread. They're not meant to be about that, but someone will, possibly, get their knickers in a twist about it. The first is about public airwaves; the latter is about the increasing encroachment on the idea of intellectual rigor, in determining our OWN choices. However, both are--not deliberately--about liberals in media and other positions. IF someone here gets wonk about it, I'm happy to delete them. I genuinely don't mean to be discussing politics, as opposed to something else, but...you know how folks are. The political bent is, truly, an accidental part--the side-effect--of what's occurring. I would say the same thing if the slant were in any other direction. It's...it's coincidence, more than anything else, but the ACTS involved are not. And it is they about which I am kvetching. rant about that part: Spoiler:
In that vein, about GOOGLE: Spoiler:
AND, really, about the shows--enough of that crap. It's like watching the infamous "airline versions" of movies. You end up with unresolved plot points, irrational dialogue, etc. PBS wants my dough? Then they need to step up and earn it a bit more than they are now. I waited a year+ just so I could watch Downton Abby without their "HELP" in watching it. Again, if someone gets all bent, just let me know, and I'll delete the spoilers. In fairness, you've been warned. </grumble> Hitch |
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Once upon a time, back in the mid 80's, pay TV finally came to Canada. I signed up for "C" Channel which was supposed to be a more "artsy" channel as opposed to the two movie channels that were also offered. Well, artsy it was with things like Twyla Tharpe's "Hot Gossip" but also other offerings like "Last Tango in Paris" which was a first to see that on TV. One of the shows was an one act play, "Rattlesnake in a Cooler". This is an angry hour long diatribe of rage and anger. The language would strip wall paper from the walls. Again, like nothing I had ever seen on TV. A few years later, I saw that the same program was being shown on my local Buffalo PBS station. What I saw was the original video with about an hour of bleeping for a soundtrack. I don't know why they even bothered. I generally skip dram presentations of PBS and wait for the shows to become available on DVD and then get them from the library or these days, grab them off the net from an international source. US broadcast television is a joke. It truly is Minnow's "vast wasteland".
In the early 70's, an small independent station, CITY went on the air in Toronto. It was located at the top of UHF band with their antenna on top of their two storey building in midtown Toronto. If you were lucky, weather conditions were just right and you held the antenna perfectly, you might be able to pick them up as far away as the city limits. To establish themselves as new and important and with the assumption that any children would not be watching after midnight, the launched "The Baby Blue Movie". These were the very softest of soft core movies and did they ever get an audience! If they had tried that in the US they would have all been in jail. Here, the worst that happened was most of the movies were panned as being really boring. There was an upsurge in the purchase of extreme fringe antennas in Buffalo and Niagara Falls, NY though. When CITY moved their transmitter to the CN Tower and their signal became available through Southern Ontario they dropped the Blue Movie series. Our TV programming has become almost as boring as the US now but we still broadcast things late at night that would get the station shut down in the US. |
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I remember when we first got cable when I was a teenager (and that was probably late 70s, because I remember it being about the time I went away to college) - one of the pay stations played soft-core porn late at night. I want to say Cinemax, but I really couldn't say for sure. It was pretty awful - we all had a good laugh and that was the end of it.
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I should add, since this was originally about stripping excess carriage returns, I have a couple of command line programs that take text file and unwraps them. The Gutenberg text files for instance, where each line is truncated at about eighty characters. It requires that each paragraph is separated by a blank line. The first program just unwraps from standard input to standard output. The second program does the same thing but wraps the text into a very simple xhtml file. Quotes, single and double, angle brackets and ampersands are converted to entities. I use this as the first stage when converting from text files.
These are very simple programs and are written in Pascal and are compiles with the Free Pascal Compiler. They run on any system that FPC is available for. I use them, and other utilities, on both Windows (XP, 7 and 8.1) as well as Linux. If anyone is interested, I can post the source. I also have utilities to merge xhtml files or split them on headings. |
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