Patch for auto-mounting when plugged to USB?

pickyaxe · 03-06-2015, 10:28 AM

Having to click "Connect" every time a USB cable is plugged in is a chore if you're doing it 10 times a day. I don't care about the security risk.

Would be great if this was somehow patchable.

JSWolf · 03-06-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pickyaxe

Having to click "Connect" every time a USB cable is plugged in is a chore if you're doing it 10 times a day. I don't care about the security risk.

Would be great if this was somehow patchable.

Bad idea. Then you cannot read while charging.

PeterT · 03-06-2015, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Bad idea. Then you cannot read while charging.

Not so... If I plug my Glo into the charger that came with my Nexus 7 it does not trigger the USB connection message.

I'm sure we've had this discussion previously on this forum about USB chargers and what is needed for the Kobo to detect that it is a data connection.

Ripplinger · 03-07-2015, 05:14 AM

This is a feature I'd also love, since no other reader that I have prompts to connect or not and I often forget to do it until hours later. Reading while charging is something I'd never ever do.

frostschutz · 03-07-2015, 02:13 PM

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no other reader that I have prompts to connect or not

Really? Every device does this, even the $1000 "smart" phone. If it didn't ask, as JSWolf said you could probably not read while charging. This has technical reasons. A filesystem can only be mounted by one machine at the time; while you read it's mounted by your reader; while it's in usb storage, it's [assumed to be] mounted by your computer and the reader must not access it during that time, otherwise you get data corruption.

A "read while charging" feature under these circumstances would involve the reader keeping a copy of the current book in memory (and then you could not switch books while charging).

It's possible to upload files through wifi, if you have a FTP server running. Unfortunately the Kobo does not know about those uploads and does not update its database. Maybe it would work for an external SD card which you can pop in/out while the device is running... and you can communicate this SD switch to nickel through the hardware status.

PeterT · 03-07-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

It's possible to upload files through wifi, if you have a FTP server running. Unfortunately the Kobo does not know about those uploads and does not update its database.

Huh. Recently when the USB port on my Glo was damaged (still able to charge the device but unable to connect to a PC) I had NO issues downloading new ePubs to the device via calibre's Content Server using the stock Kobo browser and seeing those books processed and added to the database.

frostschutz · 03-07-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterT

I had NO issues downloading new ePubs to the device via calibre's Content Server using the stock Kobo browser and seeing those books processed and added to the database.

If the Kobo does the downloading, sure - but with FTP it's passive [OTOH it allows pushing hundreds of files in one go - but you still have to plug into USB once for the database]. FTP is a bad idea anyway as it's not protected and offers access to anyone in the network.

I wish there was a database free folder browsing mode for the Kobo. So many problems just wouldn't exist.

PeterT · 03-07-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

I wish there was a database free folder browsing mode for the Kobo. So many problems just wouldn't exist.

KoReader or CoolReader

davidfor · 03-07-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

If the Kobo does the downloading, sure - but with FTP it's passive [OTOH it allows pushing hundreds of files in one go - but you still have to plug into USB once for the database]. FTP is a bad idea anyway as it's not protected and offers access to anyone in the network.

It should also process the books after a power. cycle And someone has worked out how to trigger the processing when putting books on the device by other methods.

JSWolf · 03-07-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterT

Not so... If I plug my Glo into the charger that came with my Nexus 7 it does not trigger the USB connection message.

I'm sure we've had this discussion previously on this forum about USB chargers and what is needed for the Kobo to detect that it is a data connection.

I've tried my H2O with an iPhone charger and I did get the USB connection message. So any charger that follows the Apple specs will trigger the USB connection message.

frostschutz · 03-07-2015, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by davidfor

someone has worked out how to trigger the processing when putting books on the device by other methods.

link?

davidfor · 03-07-2015, 10:53 PM

I don't remember exactly. I assume Google Drive on Kobo Touch does it. I seem to remember a discussion on it as part of something else, but I can't remember what.

eschwartz · 03-08-2015, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

Really? Every device does this, even the $1000 "smart" phone. If it didn't ask, as JSWolf said you could probably not read while charging. This has technical reasons. A filesystem can only be mounted by one machine at the time; while you read it's mounted by your reader; while it's in usb storage, it's [assumed to be] mounted by your computer and the reader must not access it during that time, otherwise you get data corruption.

A "read while charging" feature under these circumstances would involve the reader keeping a copy of the current book in memory (and then you could not switch books while charging).

It's possible to upload files through wifi, if you have a FTP server running. Unfortunately the Kobo does not know about those uploads and does not update its database. Maybe it would work for an external SD card which you can pop in/out while the device is running... and you can communicate this SD switch to nickel through the hardware status.

The Kindle requires absolutely none of this. If I plug it in somewhere, it automounts, and if I use the OS "Eject" feature I can read while it charges.

In practice this doesn't always happen -- because my Kindle is secured with a password, so unless it was already "turned on", I have to type in the password first. I would expect the same from smartphones -- instead they disappoint me.

Aside: I can also add books through USBNetwork, or via the kterm hack if I download via wget etc.
The Kindle instantly (well, after a few seconds) senses it.

It is not completely illogical to expect some sort of similar behavior from other devices.

boriar · 03-08-2015, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

link?

If you said "how to trigger Kobo device to search sideload books?", i use the KSM's "simulate_usb_connection.png". It make appear the usb message without connect it actually, then you touch connect button and after a few seconds it return to home screen.

For me it work well.

Ripplinger · 03-08-2015, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

Really? Every device does this, even the $1000 "smart" phone.
...

Nope, my phone connects as a media device (Samsung Galaxy S4) and there's no prompt at all, and I have full access to do anything I want on the phone while it's charging, including making calls, transferring files, playing games, reading.

My Sony PRS-350 just connects with a charging battery message, no prompt. If I plug it into a wall outlet, there's still no prompt but I could read if I ever wanted to (but I don't).

My PW2 just connects, no prompt, it just goes right into "USB Drive Mode" and charges. If I want to read on it, I then just eject it from the PC (but again, something I'd never do).

Even my cameras connect and immediately start charging, no bothersome message at all. If I want to transfer photos, then I have to turn it on and it stops charging while doing that.

But the Kobo Glo... annoying message prompt to either Cancel or Connect to go into USB mode and charge, or else it just sits there with the light on doing nothing and not charging.

03-06-2015, 10:28 AM	#1
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Ripplinger 350 Hoarder Posts: 3,574 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2	This is a feature I'd also love, since no other reader that I have prompts to connect or not and I often forget to do it until hours later. Reading while charging is something I'd never ever do.

03-07-2015, 10:53 PM	#12
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,906 Karma: 47303748 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	I don't remember exactly. I assume Google Drive on Kobo Touch does it. I seem to remember a discussion on it as part of something else, but I can't remember what.