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Along the same lines, if a car dealer offers a "bonus" of heated seats it will indeed be seen as a bonus in cold climates, but as an un-needed add-on in hot climates. So who decides whether or not something is a "bonus"? Is it the giver or the recipient? Shari |
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The top definition of bonus on Merriam-Webster is : something good that is more than what was expected or required If you look down a couple lines there is Full Definition of BONUS : something in addition to what is expected or strictly due Of course, virtually no one would consider a poke in the eye with a sharp stick to be a bonus, I'm not suggesting they would. However, getting an excerpt is hardly the same as getting a sharp stick in the eye. Whether an excerpt is good is a matter of opinion, and something can only be a lie if we are dealing with a matter of fact. We've really gotten away from the meaning of "bonus" to the meaning of "good". Not all good things are of use or interest to everyone. A sample of Cascade is useless to me as I don't have a dishwasher. Does that mean it isn't a bonus? If things are only bonuses if everyone wants them they word is rendered useless. The prize in a box of Cracker Jack isn't much of a prize, but is it a lie to call it one? A parka isn't of use to someone on a beach in Hawaii, but that doesn't mean it isn't good, there are people who might find that parka quite useful. Free tickets to a movie you don't want to see aren't as much use, but you have something that someone might reasonably want. I'll agree that a sharp stick in the eye doesn't qualify as a bonus, it has to be something that a reasonable person might want. An excerpt is really no different than a parka or movie tickets, some people might want it, others might not. That doesn't mean it isn't good. |
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I think we would probably all agree that, for example, extra money in your pay packet is an example of the sort of "bonus" that we would accept as being good. What's less obvious is whether a "bonus chapter" of the next book in the series at the end of the current book really qualifies as a "bonus" in the accepted sense of the word, or is it really just advertising?
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While the intent of including an excerpt from another book may be to advertise that book, I think it's not quite accurate to call it advertising. Ten pages of praise and blurbs promoting a book, for example, would be advertising; that is not the same thing as ten pages of text from that book. An excerpt is a bonus.
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What is not obvious is that an excerpt is not a bonus. It seems to be a bonus in the same sense that a packet of Cascade is a bonus. Some people will want the sample of Cascade, others will not. Similarly, some people will want the excerpt. In the days before e-books, excerpts were of more value, because you couldn't simply download a sample. Yet being of less vaue doesn't mean that it is of no value. In order for the claim that it is a lie to call an excerpt a bonus it must be a fact that an excerpt is not a bonus. A difference of opinion does not constitute a lie. a The Arby's sign says "Arby's Roast Beef is Delicious." I don't agree that it is. However, other people do find it delicious. If the sign said "Arby's Roast Beef is Vegan", then it would be a lie. |
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