02-25-2013, 08:50 AM | #91 | |
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02-25-2013, 09:22 AM | #92 |
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If I buy a computer that expensive, it's to run power hungry apps like eclipse, or games. No point in something that powerful for just webapps.
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02-25-2013, 10:23 AM | #93 | |
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http://nativeclientgames.com/ If you are talking about Eclipse the multilanguage development environment, then no, Chrome isn't there yet. (and may not ever be there!) But remember, this is designed to be an enduser computing environment, not a comprehensive digital toolset. I think I'm done defending the Chrome environment for a while, BTW. Like anything else in this world, it will rise or fall because of, or in spite of, people's good opinion. Last edited by GlenBarrington; 02-25-2013 at 10:30 AM. |
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/lapto...ok-pixel-linux
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One thing i forgot i would not buy one with only 32g storage as could not store many movies on it! It is not versatile enough for price.
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Why do people keep forgetting that it has a card slot? There are so many tablets out there that have _less_ than 32GB storage and _no_ card slot. Some also can not connect to USB storage.
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I write this as someone who has used linux exclusively at work and home for over 16 years and who boots to text mode, logs in, then starts X. It is not so much that I am lazy, but I detest gratuitous awkwardness and having to learn and remember obscure boot details for every device that I use. |
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Well, this gambit of releasing a tasty high-end device to promote interest in Chromebooks generally has worked on me.
I can't justify Ultrabook prices at the moment, but I was looking for a slightly larger replacement for my (much-loved) netbook as a device specifically for writing projects, so I bought the Samsung WiFi Chromebook, for £224 from Amazon. I can see why people give these things rave reviews soon after opening them! The real test will come a few months down the road when I find out all the things that I can't do - I'm keeping a list - but the first impressions are wonderful. The adverts do not lie. I was doing useful work on this less than 3 minutes after turning it on for the first time, and that included taking time to say 'ooh shiny' quite a lot. You plug it in and turn it on, then log into your wifi connection. Chrome starts and asks you for your Google password. It gives you a dialog with terms and conditions that you have to accept. Then it loads. It's really that simple. If I hadn't read the terms it would probably have been even quicker. I'd been testing out a Chrome web app called Scriptito earlier in the day, which is an HTML5 writer's tool a bit like Scrivener - as I knew that the latter wouldn't run - and I'd been plotting out a short story. Once the Chromebook had logged in it offered me a Getting Started tutorial, but I ignored this at the time and went straight to the browser, found Scriptito and there was my project. I continued where I left off. Obviously for £224 (with free delivery) the build quality isn't in the same league as the Pixel device, but this little Samsung is a lovely sleek thing, and it's actually noticeably lighter than my 10.1" Samsung netbook. It's got a very pleasant chiclet keyboard and it was a joy writing in a comfortable chair by the window. I then amazed myself even more by using the TeamViewer web version to take control of my Windows desktop. Worked like a dream, as did printing, and watching some on demand TV during lunch with the chromebook driving my TV via HDMI. Things that didn't work so far:
These are definitely outweighed so far by the things that did work, which pleased me. Team Viewer, as mentioned, but also Napster's web player, Comixology, and the on-demand TV sites. Given that the device ships with 100GB cloud storage for two years - which I was also thinking of getting - this is a great purchase. So, the basic concept of the Chromebook feels sound. The online storage offering should also be removed from the price to get a true feel for the amount you are paying for the machine. Seeing what I can already do with this cheap machine I'm prepared to say that the Pixel is not dramatically overpriced for its build quality and included cloud storage. But as a marketing ploy to get people to buy the cheaper Chromebooks? Brilliant. Graham Last edited by Graham; 02-27-2013 at 10:47 AM. |
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The one thing that everything can agree on, whether impressed or not by the Pixel, is that it is dramatically overpriced for its capabilities.
But as you say, it has done its job as a marketing ploy by getting people talking and thinking about Chromebooks for the first time in a long while. |
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Its capabilities include a large amount of what I and many people actually need to do. I won't come to a final conclusion for several months, but I'm pretty sure there's a target market out there who will find this covers all that they absolutely need. If you can do 95% of what you want to do, and 100% of what you need to do, then the machine is as capable to you as a Windows machine or a Mac. We're then just comparing prices based on build quality. Given the 1 TB of cloud storage for 3 years, and the quality of the touch screen, the price compares favourably with ultrabooks and MacBook Airs. Overpriced, possibly; dramatically overpriced, no. Graham |
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Besides that, I spy a cognitive dissonance in your justification of the Pixel's virtues. On the one hand, you advocate a philosophy of 'Good Enough.' If it can do 95% of what you want it to do, it's good enough. If you can't use Word but you can use Google Docs, it's good enough. If you can't handle certain types of files, but there are substitutes available, then it's good enough. Ad infinitum. On the other hand, the hardware is top-notch. That excellence, which speaks to a rejection of compromise, commands a premium price. It is the best of all possible Chromebooks and superior to an entire swath of consumer laptops. Given those two facts, it is implausible to believe that most customers who embark on a purchase with the 'Good Enough' mentality would be willing to pay a $1,000 premium for top-flight hardware. No individual willing to compromise on software and functionality is going to be a stickler for perfect hardware. He is, rather, going to buy the hardware that's 'good enough,' and save a bundle. Likewise, few customers unwilling to compromise on hardware are going to accept a crippled OS with half the functionality of an OS X or Windows system. The smartest thing that has been written about the Pixel so far is this (c/o David Pierce at The Verge): "Everyone should want a Chromebook Pixel — I certainly do. But almost no one should buy one." Last edited by holymadness; 02-27-2013 at 11:39 AM. |
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Still waiting for Netflix support before I decide.
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