10-22-2012, 06:21 AM | #166 |
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10-22-2012, 06:12 PM | #167 |
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Lots of things are legal that are not OK, lying and cheating for example.
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10-22-2012, 06:51 PM | #169 | |
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Specific ethics vary from person to person, and they evolve over time. And many ethics have little to do with how well the society functions at the large scale. Codifying too much of that into law is a recipe for a dogmatic, irrational, and dysfunctional society/government. But here's the thing, lying and cheating can pose a problem to society. Specifically when it is easy to go back on your word in a business deal with no recourse. Thus, we include the legal concept of a contract that is enforced by civil courts. So while we don't criminalize the behavior, we make it possible to address the harm the behavior causes to society. Copyright infringement started out purely as a civil offense, rather than criminal. I'm not a fan of how it has been made into a criminal offense. I believe the protections afforded under copyright fall under the same category that contract law provides. Not the same protections that criminal law is meant to provide. |
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I realize that purely imaginative literature has a predominant presence on this board. But were you considering, when you became certain of the one-person hypothesis, that non-fiction is arguably more popular than fiction? As far as translators are concerned, your one person hypothesis may be partly due to the provincialism of English speakers. We tend to read books originally written in our own language. Look at how the number one through seven German fiction bestsellers on my last link were all translations. Editors are garbage? Now people are going to think you're a Stalinist again. |
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10-22-2012, 08:14 PM | #172 | |
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'Criminal copyright infringement' has been part of our [United States] jurisprudence for over a century. And of course the US is a lot older than that. My last link notes that some forms of copyright infringement became, in 1982, in the US, felonies. That's way harsher than is wise. When laws are so harsh, against offenses so common, they aren't enforced. Make it like a parking ticket. Give the kingpins probation. |
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10-23-2012, 02:49 AM | #173 |
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I feel this means no meeting of minds between her and Giggles. Which is not to say that the answer to your second question is "no". |
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10-23-2012, 05:46 PM | #175 |
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If anyone is interested in reading about the actual case the court will be deciding, there is a good explanation of the basic issues here.
Interestingly, Justice Kagan, who recused herself the last time this issue came up, leading to a 4-4 affirmance of the circuit court's decision, will be the deciding vote. Last edited by whitearrow; 10-23-2012 at 05:49 PM. |
10-23-2012, 07:10 PM | #176 |
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The time of tariffs has passed.
What country who prints currency does not by definition manipulate currency? All countries should therefore be suspect, as well as their legislative decisions, it is only logical. This book can only be sold in the country where it was bought? lol, what an archaic notion. I am interested in this case, but I am also not interested in the idea that the supreme court should have the final say in any matter, so I'm a bit torn... Last edited by Giggleton; 10-23-2012 at 07:13 PM. |
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This is, however, a matter of statutory interpretation, not constitutional law, so Congress could always change it at a later time. |
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Archaic notion? Maybe. Reality? Yes. The problem here is that you don't have a world government, world currency or really any organization at that level which can properly level the playing field. Each nation has different laws. Each nation has tariffs on imports (see Brazil's 100% tariffs making Foxconn build plants there to bypass it). As long as you have all these different sovereign nations with their own idea of what is moral and legal behavior, you cannot get a truly global economy. At least not one that is less neurotic than what we have now. If you haven't realized how neurotic the global economy is by now, you haven't worked at a company that operates internationally, or have been ignoring the economy section of the newspaper for the last 50 years. |
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10-24-2012, 10:22 AM | #180 | |
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Neurotic != insane, and was a form of hyperbole to refer to how twitchy nations are in the global economy. The point I keep making and that you routinely ignore is that nobody is "allowing" the global economy to function. Nobody has any level of control over it. Nations try to control their piece of it, and the differences that make the global economy look neurotic are due to cultural differences as well as differences in the local situation. You can't just "fix" culture so that it is all the same and reshape whole economies to "fix" local situations. It's not realistic to believe that can just be done. Not when these different cultures look at each other and ask themselves "Why do they do that?" |
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