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Old 10-07-2012, 12:23 PM   #451
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Yep the Kindle Keyboard has 4 options for screen rotation, so in any direction.

(As shown here).
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Yep the Kindle Keyboard has 4 options for screen rotation, so in any direction.

(As shown here).
You're right, now I remember ...

But sold, once the Touch got the landscape mode.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:11 PM   #453
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May I know why?

Unless you're using a case that folds in an specific way, I don't see where the problem is ...

And most cases noticed that anyway and were designed with that in mind.
I have the Kindle 3 and prefer to read lying in bed on my side. I have my K3 in a stand and switch from one side to the other, and so I need to be able to rotate it both ways depending upon the side on which I am lying.

I can't stand reading in bed sitting up, which it seems the more common way people read in bed. The ergonomics are poor and I'd rather not hold the Kindle... hence the reading on my side using a stand.
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The Paperwhite also has Landscape mode. While Reading, you can find it by touching that icon that looks like the home button on the Touch. It's the fourth one down the list.
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Yep the Kindle Keyboard has 4 options for screen rotation, so in any direction.

(As shown here).
The K4B has excellent contrast and non of the issues the Paperwhite has. I love mine! I think everyone should have one.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:39 PM   #456
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I just replaced by PW because of as big blue blotch on the screen. CS told me they are aware of the issue and they are now being tested. I wonder if this is true or if I am being placated. Anyone else been told this by CS?

Also, I don't have to wait, they sent it right away by 2-day shipping, which surprised me.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:45 PM   #457
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I just replaced by PW because of as big blue blotch on the screen. CS told me they are aware of the issue and they are now being tested. I wonder if this is true or if I am being placated. Anyone else been told this by CS?

Also, I don't have to wait, they sent it right away by 2-day shipping, which surprised me.
This is probably true Amazon doesn't usually sit back and let a huge issues go on. Someone(s) screwed up and with a huge amount of returns Amazon knows it and is probably working on it.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:58 PM   #458
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The K4B has excellent contrast and non of the issues the Paperwhite has. I love mine! I think everyone should have one.
Blossom, sometimes I think you've got a rare pearl and, well... Do you want to sell your used K4?
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:08 PM   #459
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Blossom, sometimes I think you've got a rare pearl and, well... Do you want to sell your used K4?
No it's true, Just look at the threads here, Almost everyone who has own a Silver and Black will tell you the black has a lighter background and blacker text. I've yet to see one person say the opposite. Seeing the K4B is international that means everyone can have one.

Check out this thread and this one and mine own here

As for my old K4S. I don't know what I'll do with it. It has a stain back and poor contrast. I feel bad selling it as I don't think it's worth much.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #460
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I'm betting next year's 2nd generation Paperwhite will have 5 to 8 LEDs, some on the bottom of the screen just as they are currently, and the rest on the top; and the light distribution will be nearly perfect.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:50 PM   #461
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I'm betting next year's 2nd generation Paperwhite will have 5 to 8 LEDs, some on the bottom of the screen just as they are currently, and the rest on the top; and the light distribution will be nearly perfect.
This is what I was thinking since the light is even on the other side of the lights, but I'm not sure if it would conflict with the technology they use to reflect the light back onto the screen since the LED side is different from the non-LED side.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/28/a...hnology-video/
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Here is a sample of the bleeped up text I was talking about. This is Helvetica witH brightness set at 17/24.

Text sample (600 x 300 px)



Text sample (1200 x 600 px): Larger image

Compare "perhaps" in the 3rd line with "some four" in the 7th line. Considerable difference in font weights although all of the text is supposed to be the same weight. Thiese differences in weight are more pronounced in the lighter, thinner fonts.
Aah, I noticed that at times too. It went away when I set it to refresh every page. It seems to be related to the way they do the partial refreshes.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:44 PM   #463
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I just replaced by PW because of as big blue blotch on the screen. CS told me they are aware of the issue and they are now being tested. I wonder if this is true or if I am being placated. Anyone else been told this by CS?

Also, I don't have to wait, they sent it right away by 2-day shipping, which surprised me.
When I talked to a CS rep on Friday, they claimed they hadn't heard of this issue. I wonder if they are all admitting to the issue now, or if it just varies by rep.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:31 PM   #464
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I just got my PW a few hours ago, and so far, I love it! Sure it has some unevenness at the bottom, but I'm only aware of it from reading about it. I doubt it would enter my thoughts otherwise. My last front lit ereader was a Sony 700, and before that a Sony 505 w/ a light wedge, so this is a great improvement in my book.
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I got my PW today and seem to have been in luck. At least I am happy with it.

I thought I might go a a bit more "scientific" with my review of its screen and its comparison to my 2 year old Kindle Keyboard. Photoshop can do more things than doing Kindle preview images for Amazon...

I.e. measuring the black level of an area.
Method used: have both Kindles next to each other equally far away from light source, take picture of both, load image in PS, convert to gray scale, use pipette tool with a decent area so you have a good average to take black level.

Minimum/Maximum:
Kindle Keyboard: 30 / 84
Kindle Paperweight: 28 / 84

So..pretty much the same without the light.

The light is, however, always on. Even when it is off (aka setting 0). It is actually bright enough to read the Kindle in total darkness, although it wouldn't really be enjoyable reading.

I do not usually read in the dark, though. This is my typical reading area and Kindle placement. With the light at minimum the difference is there still really small. But this changes considerably with a higher light level, though (12/24 in this case).

Both Kindles are equally far away from the light, the PW has a minimum grayscale of 30 in the "white" areas while the KK has one of 50! The light of the PW also looks very even with some ambient light.
Maximum grayscale is a bit trickier to measure due to the small letters, I should have used the maximum font size there, but, well, :effort: Anyway, on the PW maximum grayscale 75 is while on the KK it was 80. So there is some loss of black due to the light, but it is compensated by the increased white and then some.

Here the PW in total darkness at the same light level (12/24). The light shadows at the bottom are visible and there seems to be a green? discoloration in the upper center. But is it really there or is it just some visual illusion? I think everyone of us has seen pictures where you see shadows where there are none.

So lets do some Photoshop magic. Yes, there is definitely a light green discoloration without ambient light.
It's not because the green light is faulty, btw (that one is pretty uniform), but because red and blue light have an "hole" there.

But, honestly, I do not really care. I would have liked a perfect bleached white in darkness just as much as the next guy, but I would call it hardly a huge annoyance. And I mostly (as in 95% of the time) won't use it like this but with some ambient light. Which makes discolorations essentially invisible, at least with my unit.

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