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Old 06-02-2022, 05:17 AM   #1
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Amazon China Kindle Store will stop operation on June 30, 2023

Today, I received an e-mail notice titled "notice on operation adjustment of China Kindle Store" sent by Amazon China, which said that China Kindle Store would stop operation on June 30, 2023.

You can read this email through the browser's translation plugin.

https://www.amazon.cn/b/ref=s9_acss_...rd_i=116169071

Some people think that pressure from content moderation may have led Amazon to make this decision, but I don't think so. In fact, only the books that have obtained the publication number in China can publish the electronic version, and this work is done by the publishing house, and Amazon China is only responsible for the distribution of the content.

Of course, the remaining reason is that Amazon no longer wants to take losses. Both the ecology and competitive teammates of the Chinese market may be the reasons for its losses. Although people's copyright awareness is gradually improving, but it is undeniable that piracy is still common.

In addition, Kindle China's biggest competitor, Wechat Read, has acquired millions of active users in just a few years through a series of initiatives such as free reading, better user experience, and mixed social attributes.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:29 AM   #2
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Amazon's plan for handling already purchased books is the interesting thing to me. It shows what could happen elsewhere if Amazon pulls out of a market.

Customers have until June 30, 2024 to download books to their Kindle apps and devices. After that those purchased Kindle books will no longer be available.

Unless the customer takes steps to make backup copies and remove DRM those books will gradually be lost to them as devices break or are upgraded. It is just a matter of time.


Added: My understanding is that Kindle books in Traditional Chinese (as opposed to Simplified) are only available in KFX format and DRM removal may not be possible for them.

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Old 06-02-2022, 08:43 AM   #3
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Yet when browsing an Author listing on Amazon a title may have "You own this" under Read Now if it doesn't have Buy Now.

DRM is acceptable for rentals or loans. It's immoral on purchases. Amazon had an ebook system before Kindle and turned it off.
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:25 AM   #4
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and its for this very reason that people remove drm where possible. you dont want amazon to pull the plug on you and you lose brought content.
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Old 06-02-2022, 09:29 PM   #5
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Amazon vs. China

This is the number one reason why I remove DRM from the eBooks that I buy:

"Amazon will stop supplying Chinese resellers with its Kindle eBook readers starting Thursday and discontinue operations of its Kindle eBook store in the country on June 30, 2023."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/a...ok-store-china

I'm assuming this is being done because of something the Chinese government has done that upsets online retailers. Who knows - but the reason doesn't matter. The ones affected by Amazons pull-out are the Chinese customers who bought Kindles and eBooks. Chances are quite high that these customers did not do anything wrong, but they are the ones catching the punishment anyway.

Don't download your books, don't remove the DRM from them - and you are screwed if you live in China. Probably will be the same in Russia pretty soon.
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Who needs to guess when the article linked provides an answer, albeit a general one

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The announcement, which was first posted on Kindle's Weibo account, comes as other Western companies have cut services in or retreated completely from China amid government efforts to tighten control over online content and new laws targeting data sharing and customer privacy.
Hardly surprising. But I’ll agree those hurt most are the citizens of China.
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:41 PM   #7
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Don't download your books, don't remove the DRM from them - and you are screwed if you live in China. Probably will be the same in Russia pretty soon.
Accordingly to the Honolulu Star Advertiser, customers have until June 30, 2024 to do just that (assuming legal in China).

Amazon’s original sin here was to accept book censorship, including this banned-in-China title I recommend.
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Old 06-03-2022, 01:51 AM   #8
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Accordingly to the Honolulu Star Advertiser, customers have until June 30, 2024 to do just that (assuming legal in China).
That just reinforces what many people recommend doing. Step one: Buy book. Step two: Download to your local computer. Step three: Remove DRM. Step four: Convert book to whatever other formats you use now or may in the future. It's probably smartest to do this from the get-go on every book you purchase rather than waiting on some announcement from Amazon that makes it imperative to do it, preferably ASAP. You may have a backlog of a lot of books to do if you're not proactive and instead choose to wait for the announcement (assuming the announcement comes with adequate lead time in the first place - there may not even be any announcement, or you may miss it).

Another reason to be proactive: What if this scenario unfolds? Amazon announces their pull-out along with allowing you to download your books until June 30, 2023 (like they just did). China says "Screw you Amazon! We will ban you from any connections into China immediately!!!" (which is something they have the capability to do). You better hope you have been proactive, otherwise you lose it all, despite what Amazon had planned to allow initially.
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Old 06-03-2022, 05:34 AM   #9
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In my country there is a racist saying, when translated from Kreol, is "the Chinese are not human beings".

Amazon's move seems to be about business, but I wouldn't be surprised if this thread was continued on the politics board.
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Old 06-03-2022, 06:05 AM   #11
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Apparently the Amazon Kindle (and Amazon's eBooks) had become a niche product in China — at least according to this article...

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Poor sales might play a role. While Amazon is a frontrunner in the e-reader and e-book markets for numerous countries, it has struggled in China as of late. The country was once the Kindle's largest market, with internal data (obtained by Reuters) showing that it represented over 40 percent of e-reader sales in 2017. The rise of Chinese competitors like Xiaomi and TikTok parent ByteDance eroded Amazon's share, however, and iiMedia Research analyst Zhang Yi told Nikkei that the Kindle brand is now "relatively niche" in the region. The Chinese are more likely to read with their phones, and domestic e-book services like Tencent's China Literature dominate where the Kindle app isn't even in the top 10.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazo...132935052.html
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Old 06-03-2022, 09:22 AM   #14
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You didn't buy content, you licensed it.
But Amazon keep insisting I own it.

I'd suspect with a decently funded legal case any fine print anywhere denying ownership would be found to be invalid.

Obviously ownership doesn't give exactly the same options as a paper version, where indeed you own that copy, but have only a licence to the content. You can't copy or republish the paper book you bought, as the ownership doesn't include those rights on the content.
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Amazon shutting ebook store and halt ereader sales in China

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...-sale-85139539

Interesting. Weird they are pulling out of such a big market. I'm not sure why they would do this. Is it because they don't have enough market share? Or is it because they are not allowed to use customer data etc because of the government?
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