wrong epub name :(

[Lauraq]

Hi

In Calibre I have organized:

Author: Conan Doyle Arthur

Title: Sherlock Holmes. All the novels and all the short stories


but when I look in the folder containing the epub file it is called:

Sherlock Holmes. All the novels and al - Conan Doyle Arthur



What I must do for have my epub named in "artist - title", for example:

Conan Doyle Arthur - Sherlock Holmes. All the novels and all the short stories

Thanks

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

Hi

In Calibre I have organized:

Author: Conan Doyle Arthur

Title: Sherlock Holmes. All the novels and all the short stories

but when I look in the folder containing the epub file it is called:

Sherlock Holmes. All the novels and al - Conan Doyle Arthur

What I must do for have my epub named in "artist - title", for example:

Conan Doyle Arthur - Sherlock Holmes. All the novels and all the short stories

Thanks

You don't. See the Want to change folder structure or file names in the Calibre library? sticky in the Library Management forum. The advice given there has not changed in the last decade.

You can play to your heart's content with save to disk or send to device templates but the calibre library should not be touched unless you enjoy unscrambling eggs or are willing to compile calibre from source to have your own fork.

[Lauraq]

Thanks, I'm not an expert and I don't understand English well but it seems absurd to me that this is normal
title (truncated!) - artist



but thanks again

[davidfor]

The truncating will be because of long names in the file path. There is a maximum length and something has to be taken out to fit. There is discussion of this in https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=339099. That is specifically about the save-to-dis function, but, it affects the library structure as well.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

Thanks, I'm not an expert and I don't understand English well but it seems absurd to me that this is normal
title (truncated!) - artist



but thanks again

As @davidfor mentions, this is due to keeping the maximum filename and path length below the operating system limits. Given that calibre supports multiple operating systems, it goes with the shortest limit of it's supported OSs. You don't see this truncation in the calibre GUI where the title and author would be viewed by most users and that mucking with filenames, deleting files, etc. in the calibre library from outside of calibre can and will result in database inconsistency, IMHO, it should not be of any real concern.

[Horus68]

The name used by Calibre4 is for Calibre use only. It could have been an ID number, you don't need to bother with that.
You don't need to open the Calibre library folder, you only need to make a backup of each Calibre library folder.

Now on the file names:
- When using Calibre (main interface) you still have the full name (author and title). You can add details as series and pages and so on.
- If using an eReader you can send each book whit a file name in the order you want (under the limitations of each device)
- If you want to send a file for someone or archive it off Calibre you can export the book and Calibre allows you to set up the order of the details in the file name (as in author, title, date, series and so on)

It works perfectly!

[Lauraq]

Originally Posted by DNSB

As @davidfor mentions, this is due to keeping the maximum filename and path length below the operating system limits. Given that calibre supports multiple operating systems, it goes with the shortest limit of it's supported OSs. You don't see this truncation in the calibre GUI where the title and author would be viewed by most users and that mucking with filenames, deleting files, etc. in the calibre library from outside of calibre can and will result in database inconsistency, IMHO, it should not be of any real concern.

it's just an "aesthetic" question However, a fantastic program like Caliber could adapt to the operating system and put the entire titles

Horus68 ... yes, thank you. I knew these things, it was only for the appearance of the files that, when I see them in the folders, I don't like them

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

it's just an "aesthetic" question However, a fantastic program like Caliber could adapt to the operating system and put the entire titles

When I create a backup copy of my calibre library or move my calibre library to a different OS (which I have done a couple of times), I prefer to know that I will not be losing my library due to exceeding maximum path lengths on the OS I am backing up or transferring my library to.

<curmudgeon mode on>Stop peeking under calibre's skirts!<curmudgeon mode off>.

[aborel]

Originally Posted by DNSB

<curmudgeon mode on>Stop peeking under calibre's skirts!<curmudgeon mode off>.

@Lauraq: if you want a more positive view of this, perhaps I can share my experience. I also used to dislike the idea not to be in full control of the file and directory names for my ebook collection. Then I found out that the more I used calibre, the less I actually looked at the files on my hard drive. The added value of calibre and its plugins more than makes up for the loss of micromanaging my stuff

[JSWolf]

The only time the filename matters is when you do a Save to Disk. Otherwise, you almost never see the filename.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by aborel

Then I found out that the more I used calibre, the less I actually looked at the files on my hard drive. The added value of calibre and its plugins more than makes up for the loss of micromanaging my stuff

Pretty much my experience as well. A decade back, when I had ~500 ebooks, I had a very carefully constructed directory structure to allow me to manage and locate my books. I ran into mentions of calibre and thought what the heck, I'll give it a try. As my library grew, calibre gave me better control over my library and the plugins were a joy. As time went by, I spent a lot less time trying to micromanage my library's directory structure and eventually removed my original library directory.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

it's just an "aesthetic" question However, a fantastic program like Caliber could adapt to the operating system and put the entire titles

Calibre would not only have to adapt to the three supported operating systems (Windows, MacOS and Linux) and their variants, but each would have to be in combination with the several file systems supported for each, and user specific variability - e.g. on a Mac the user controls file system case sensitivity.

Dozens of adaptations would be required, and each would have its own set of exceptions (corner cases). In addition it would be a moving feast, as the new features are included in the various Operating and File Systems.

The way around this situation is to settle on a 'normalised' (one-size-fit-all / lowest-common-denominator) approach. Kovid chose to use the author names and book titles as the basis for this, he could have chosen a scheme that used the database author and book table row-ids - then the format files within a library would have had names such as 258-51.epub

BR

[Lauraq]

Originally Posted by DNSB

When I create a backup copy of my calibre library or move my calibre library to a different OS (which I have done a couple of times), I prefer to know that I will not be losing my library due to exceeding maximum path lengths on the OS I am backing up or transferring my library to.

<curmudgeon mode on>Stop peeking under calibre's skirts!<curmudgeon mode off>.

in order not to create problems for those few who move the archive from one operating system to another, conditions millions of people who will never do such an operation? It honestly doesn't seem like a valid reason. But I understand your motives

[Lauraq]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Calibre would not only have to adapt to the three supported operating systems (Windows, MacOS and Linux) and their variants, but each would have to be in combination with the several file systems supported for each, and user specific variability - e.g. on a Mac the user controls file system case sensitivity.

Dozens of adaptations would be required, and each would have its own set of exceptions (corner cases). In addition it would be a moving feast, as the new features are included in the various Operating and File Systems.

The way around this situation is to settle on a 'normalised' (one-size-fit-all / lowest-common-denominator) approach. Kovid chose to use the author names and book titles as the basis for this, he could have chosen a scheme that used the database author and book table row-ids - then the format files within a library would have had names such as 258-51.epub

BR

but sorry, what is the reason for putting the author's name AFTER the title? What sense can it have? When you look for a book you look for it by author and if you order them by author you see all the books he has written.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

but sorry, what is the reason for putting the author's name AFTER the title? What sense can it have? When you look for a book you look for it by author and if you order them by author you see all the books he has written.

As we have all tried to explain - the names of folders and files within the library are arbitrary, they are not the basis of searching or ordering.

It is what it is, a black box - and it isn't going to change.

BR