Kindle Firmware 5.12.5

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by PRS-T2

Oh nooo so the screenshots out there are fake then? A Reddit hoax? They did look to good to be true indeed...

Fake or not, it doesn't matter. The PW3 is EOLed.

[PRS-T2]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Fake or not, it doesn't matter. The PW3 is EOLed.

PW3? Ah from my sig. Don't own that anymore. I was talking about my Oasis3.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by PRS-T2

PW3? Ah from my sig. Don't own that anymore. I was talking about my Oasis3.

It would help if you keep your list of active (the ones you are actually using) updated. I did go by your list.

[PRS-T2]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It would help if you keep your list of active (the ones you are actually using) updated. I did go by your list.

True. Sorry I totally forgot to add the Oasis. Done now!

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by PRS-T2

Oh nooo so the screenshots out there are fake then? A Reddit hoax? They did look to good to be true indeed...

It is not a hoax. I have looked at the Kindle firmware there there is definitely an option there to add a Dark Mode icon between Bluetooth and Sync, just like those screenshots show. The software uses the DeviceCapabilityManager to check that "nightmode" is enabled before showing that option. I don't know why that is enabled for some and not others.

Spoiler:

    public static boolean isNightModeSupported() {
        return DeviceCapabilityManager.aLE().pf("nightmode");
    }

...

    this.jMR = ColorInversionUtils.isNightModeSupported();

...

    ArrayList<QuickActionsWidgetController> arrayList = new ArrayList<QuickActionsWidgetController>();
    arrayList.add(airplaneWidgetController);
    if (this.isAudibleAvailable()) {
        arrayList.add(new BluetoothWidgetController());
    }
    if (this.jMR) {
        arrayList.add(new ColorInversionWidgetController());     
    }
    arrayList.add(syncNcheckWidgetController);     
    arrayList.add(settingsWidgetController);

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It would help if you keep your list of active (the ones you are actually using) updated. I did go by your list.

It would also help if you would read the posts you are answering to instead of skimming and assuming.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

IMHO (and a lot of others right Hitch ) it's time for Mobi to go away.

I don’t think so. A lot of self published authors use mobi for files sold for kindle outside of Amazon.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I don’t think so. A lot of self published authors use mobi for files sold for kindle outside of Amazon.

So sell KF8 instead. No need for Mobi.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

So sell KF8 instead. No need for Mobi.

Older Kindles can't use KF8. They may not even have enough RAM even if Amazon wanted to. See DXG (B009) vs earlier Kindle Keyboard (B008, updated to have KF8).

So "Dual Mobi" is often used for ebook stores that don't offer two Kindle download links (which is confusing). Only Amazon knows exactly what Kindle a customer has and they convert the uploaded epub2 in advance to all the formats (old mobi, azw/KF8, and kfx) and deliver based on the customer choice if they have more than one model. They ask even for Download to PC, which model it's for if you have more than one model.

The main Amazon FW page lists 5.12.4 and "unavailable" at the PW3. This is unusual. I have the 5.12.4 on a PW3. I'm thinking that for particular versions of PW3 there is a problem with 5.12.4 and they are working on it, or else they'd not even list 5.12.4. It's not long since 5.12.4 or 5.12.5 was released, so it's premature to claim that Amazon have stopped supporting the PW3 with newer firmware. I bought my 2nd PW3 new off Amazon after they were already selling the PW4.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Older Kindles can't use KF8. They may not even have enough RAM even if Amazon wanted to. See DXG (B009) vs earlier Kindle Keyboard (B008, updated to have KF8).

So "Dual Mobi" is often used for ebook stores that don't offer two Kindle download links (which is confusing). Only Amazon knows exactly what Kindle a customer has and they convert the uploaded epub2 in advance to all the formats (old mobi, azw/KF8, and kfx) and deliver based on the customer choice if they have more than one model. They ask even for Download to PC, which model it's for if you have more than one model.

Thing is, it's time for Mobi go away. Mobi's time has come and gone. It's time for it to go away. If this means that these older Kindle's cannot get new eBooks, so be it. If Amazon could come up with a new firmware that allowed any of these older Kindles to handle KF8 and not Mobi, then that would be a good way to keep these older Kindles in use. It would make making eBooks for Kindles a lot easier.

The main Amazon FW page lists 5.12.4 and "unavailable" at the PW3. This is unusual. I have the 5.12.4 on a PW3. I'm thinking that for particular versions of PW3 there is a problem with 5.12.4 and they are working on it, or else they'd not even list 5.12.4. It's not long since 5.12.4 or 5.12.5 was released, so it's premature to claim that Amazon have stopped supporting the PW3 with newer firmware. I bought my 2nd PW3 new off Amazon after they were already selling the PW4.

Amazon pulled 5.12.4 not long after they posted it. But the problem was that it was still able to be downloaded with a sync. So some still got 5.12.4 when they weren't supposed to. It is surprising that 5.12.5 is not available for the PW3. I didn't think that Amazon was EOLing the PW3. Given that the Voyage got 5.12.5, the PW3 should have as well. Amazon should be telling customers what's going on with the PW3 and 5.12.5 instead of just not releasing it.

[fardeenah]

i still dont have the dark mode option in my paperwhite 4

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If this means that these older Kindle's cannot get new eBooks, so be it.

So that you could then criticize them for dropping support for those models?
They can't win, can they?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

So that you could then criticize them for dropping support for those models?
They can't win, can they?

Nope. So an obsolete format can go away. Heck, Sony was able to add ePub to the old PRS-500. Other then the first two Kobo models, all others are able to run the current firmware. Given that a firmware viersion that can handle KF8 was fitted into the DXG, I don't see why officially Amazon cannot swap Mobi for KF8 or add in kF8.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Nope. So an obsolete format can go away. Heck, Sony was able to add ePub to the old PRS-500. Other then the first two Kobo models, all others are able to run the current firmware. Given that a firmware viersion that can handle KF8 was fitted into the DXG, I don't see why officially Amazon cannot swap Mobi for KF8 or add in kF8.

Only because something is technically possible, doesn't mean it makes sense. Performance is a very important feature too. I am glad Amazon prioritizes performance over other features.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Only because something is technically possible, doesn't mean it makes sense. Performance is a very important feature too. I am glad Amazon prioritizes performance over features.

It's not about adding extra features. It's about getting rid of Mobi and repalcing it with KF8 so it will be easier to create Kindle eBooks as Mobi would never had to be dealt with again.

When Sony added ePub to the PRS-500, they added no other features.