Series problem

jgray · 04-19-2017, 05:40 PM

I am having trouble getting a series of books to show up in Aldiko as a Collection. I have added the following metadata to each book (with the appropriate series number).

<meta name="calibre:series" content="Brother Cadfael"/>
<meta name="calibre:series_index" content="1"/>

At first, I used EPubMetadataEditor, but it didn't handle one book correctly. I finally opened each epub with 7Zip and edited each "content.opf" file.

No matter what I do, when I import the books into Aldiko, they do not show as a Collection. I have the latest version of Aldiko, which is supposed to support the "calibre:series" metadata.

Any ideas why this isn't working?

Hitch · 04-21-2017, 12:39 AM

Well...wouldn't this be better asked in the Calibre forum? I have NO idea what Calibre tags do/don't do, and I suspect many others don't, either.

Hitch

JSWolf · 04-21-2017, 01:05 AM

Those are metadata lines for Calibre. Aldiko won't use them.

BetterRed · 04-21-2017, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitch

Well...wouldn't this be better asked in the Calibre forum? I have NO idea what Calibre tags do/don't do, and I suspect many others don't, either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Those are metadata lines for Calibre. Aldiko won't use them.

FYI - Aldiko Customer Support- Book series

Quote:

Starting from version 3.0.32, the Aldiko app supports Calibre series and series index. A lot of you . . .

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jgray

No matter what I do, when I import the books into Aldiko, they do not show as a Collection. I have the latest version of Aldiko, which is supposed to support the "calibre:series" metadata.

@jgray - if you've not already done so, I suggest you ask Aldiko ==>> Aldiko Customer Support - Requests

BR

theducks · 04-21-2017, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitch

Well...wouldn't this be better asked in the Calibre forum? I have NO idea what Calibre tags do/don't do, and I suspect many others don't, either.

Hitch

Those are purely for Calibre. (non-DC)
Only a tiny proportion of Devices are Calibre metadata friendly .

The Calibre Plugboard might help by fudging the series into a standard metadata field

Turtle91 · 04-22-2017, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Those are purely for Calibre. (non-DC)
Only a tiny proportion of Devices are Calibre metadata friendly .

The Calibre Plugboard might help by fudging the series into a standard metadata field

What "standard metadata field" is used for assigning the series name and the item number in the series?

Spoiler:

I was under the impression that TPTB in the metadata world completely ignored that essential bit of cataloging information. Thus the need for the non-DC options. If there is now a "standard" method supported by more devices then please let me know!

BetterRed · 04-22-2017, 10:27 PM

@Turtle91 - read my post, #4, which confirms what the OP originally posted - Aldiko claim they 'support' Calibre's series and series index. Here's the link - again.

https://aldiko.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/...67-Book-series

BR

Turtle91 · 04-22-2017, 11:16 PM

Oh, I don't doubt that BR. I was just wondering if Ducky knew of a standard meta that covered series and # rather than the non-DC.

Calibre obviously supports them, and my reader of preference Marvin supports them so I'm good for my purposes. But if there were standard meta tags then I would want to use those instead.

BetterRed · 04-23-2017, 01:10 AM

@Turtle91 - ePub 3 may have something - title-type collection and group-identifier perhaps.

BR

theducks · 04-23-2017, 05:24 PM

No, the whole purpose of the plugboard is to insert values where the normally do not belong.

I insert series_index in (front) of the title
(I use the proprietary 'Collections" for the series name.
Each device needs their own solution.

My old PEz used file (folder) names
{series}/{series_index}-{title}

jcsalomon · 07-13-2017, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

ePub 3 may have something - title-type collection and group-identifier perhaps.

EPUB 3.01 giveth, but EPUB 3.1 taketh away. Blasted be the name of the EPUB committee.

ETA: But see the discussion at https://github.com/w3c/publ-epub-revision/issues/642 where there’s some indication this metadata will be put back in before EPUB 3.1 is actually released.

BetterRed · 07-13-2017, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsalomon

Blasted be the name of the EPUB committee.

Like many such committees the IDPF ePub committee seems to be a make-work racquet

BR

JSWolf · 07-25-2017, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Like many such committees the IDPF ePub committee seems to be a make-work racquet

BR

I would love to see ePub 3.1 be ePub 2 with the fixes and none of the crap of 3.0.

jcsalomon · 01-29-2018, 02:09 PM

Bumping this thread to point out that https://github.com/w3c/publ-epub-revision/issues/326, “metadata for series name and volume number” is an active discussion right now.

KevinH · 01-29-2018, 04:10 PM

And still as messed up as ever. All we want is something simple and stable that adds proper support for series.

All we are ever offered is constant change and third party schemas of non-sense.

Where in schema.org under CreativeWork Book is the title provided anyplace?
http://schema.org/Book

What ever happened with Dublin Core dcterms? And what is wrong with dc?

04-19-2017, 05:40 PM	#1
jgray Fanatic Posts: 524 Karma: 2604647 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Galaxy Tab 10.1 & Note 5	Series problem I am having trouble getting a series of books to show up in Aldiko as a Collection. I have added the following metadata to each book (with the appropriate series number). <meta name="calibre:series" content="Brother Cadfael"/> <meta name="calibre:series_index" content="1"/> At first, I used EPubMetadataEditor, but it didn't handle one book correctly. I finally opened each epub with 7Zip and edited each "content.opf" file. No matter what I do, when I import the books into Aldiko, they do not show as a Collection. I have the latest version of Aldiko, which is supposed to support the "calibre:series" metadata. Any ideas why this isn't working?

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BetterRed null operator Posts: 17,691 Karma: 20473671 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Turtle91 - read my post, #4, which confirms what the OP originally posted - Aldiko claim they 'support' *Calibre's* series and series index. Here's the link - again. https://aldiko.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/...67-Book-series BR

04-22-2017, 11:16 PM	#8
Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 2,361 Karma: 13688495 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 11/X/6/iPad 1,2 & Air/Surface Pro/Kindle PW	Oh, I don't doubt that BR. I was just wondering if Ducky knew of a standard meta that covered series and # rather than the non-DC. Calibre obviously supports them, and my reader of preference Marvin supports them so I'm good for my purposes. But if there were standard meta tags then I would want to use those instead.

04-23-2017, 01:10 AM	#9
BetterRed null operator Posts: 17,691 Karma: 20473671 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Turtle91 - ePub 3 may have something - title-type collection and group-identifier perhaps. BR

04-23-2017, 05:24 PM	#10
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 26,905 Karma: 41870062 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Aura2, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	No, the whole purpose of the plugboard is to insert values where the normally do not belong. I insert series_index in (front) of the title (I use the proprietary 'Collections" for the series name. Each device needs their own solution. My old PEz used file (folder) names {series}/{series_index}-{title}

01-29-2018, 02:09 PM	#14
jcsalomon Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 1204 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Bookari (née Mantano Reader) on Android; Kindle Fire HD	Bumping this thread to point out that https://github.com/w3c/publ-epub-revision/issues/326, “metadata for series name and volume number” is an active discussion right now.

01-29-2018, 04:10 PM	#15
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 5,929 Karma: 4217884 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	And still as messed up as ever. All we want is something simple and stable that adds proper support for series. All we are ever offered is constant change and third party schemas of non-sense. Where in schema.org under CreativeWork Book is the title provided anyplace? http://schema.org/Book What ever happened with Dublin Core dcterms? And what is wrong with dc?

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