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View Poll Results: Would you circumvent geographical restrictions SOLELY to save money? | |||
Yes | 131 | 67.18% | |
No | 53 | 27.18% | |
Other (explain in thread, please) | 11 | 5.64% | |
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09-13-2013, 11:46 AM | #166 | |
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A dream that often dies of corporate "nurturing". Small wonder that many newcomers aren't bothering to submit to the ancien regime anymore. (Georestrictions, mandatory DRM, wars with retailers... The corporate types sure know how to help their... vic... authors...) Last edited by fjtorres; 09-13-2013 at 11:54 AM. |
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09-13-2013, 05:46 PM | #167 |
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There's no morality involved, except that publishers would like to delude themselves into thinking they are "licensing" a book to me.
I could see that, if "licensing" the book was a fraction of purchasing, but it's not, and I find it morally reprehensible that they attempt to steal from their customers. All this regional restriction crap is just another facet of their unbridled avarice. Art |
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09-13-2013, 06:58 PM | #168 | |
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Or did you mean that publishers should be required to pay more than they want and more then they can get back just to get world rights they do not want? |
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09-13-2013, 07:25 PM | #169 | |
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09-14-2013, 01:05 AM | #170 |
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Wherever I see much higher prices for the same downloadable items, I have to ask why?
A recent parliamentary enquiry essentially said we were being gouged. Perhaps the booksellers are different to software sellers. |
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09-14-2013, 04:51 AM | #171 | |
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How to you parallell import an ebook when you are not allowed to re-sell it? And how can an Australian company (Amazon Australia) buy the book in another geographical region if the book is restricted. |
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09-14-2013, 05:03 AM | #172 | |||
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Which is not to say that I'm in favour of what the publishers are doing necessarily but it's like blaming a fish for swimming. Trying to make money is what they do. |
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09-14-2013, 06:21 AM | #173 |
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I got an email from Kobo telling me they missed me please come back! Strange I thought I've purchased lots from you recently then I realised I had purchased those from Kobo US and Kobo UK the email was from Kobo Australia. Do I feel morally bankrupt? not one itty bitty bit. Just my 2c which you can have due to all the money I've saved by shopping globally
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09-14-2013, 08:35 AM | #174 |
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There seems to be no agency pricing in the Kobo US store anymore. So many terrific books by Canadian authors are not available as ebooks in the US. Eventually some of them seem to get there. In the meantime, having big pricing differences harms the Canadian community of authors, editors, publishers, etc. Nothing magic happened in the Canadian store as a result of the US lawsuit.
I very much want to read Joseph Boyden's new book, The Orenda. It is $16.99 CAD and not available as an ebook in the US. My choice is to borrow it from the library rather than purchase it. Why would I spend that much money on an ebook when I can get 50% off until the end of the month on pretty much any book the US store sells? |
09-14-2013, 11:03 AM | #175 |
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09-14-2013, 11:12 AM | #176 | |
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09-14-2013, 11:43 AM | #177 | |
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09-14-2013, 11:52 AM | #178 |
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I've just had this dilemma for the current Book Club book. It's Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses. In both the US and the UK it's published by Random House.
At Kobo UK it's £6.49 and the 50% off coupon won't work. At Kobo US it's $11.99 but the 50% coupon does work. Add in (say) Colorado taxes, and it's $6.45 net, which works out to £4.20. So, what should I do? The author is the same, the retailer is the same, the publisher is the same. The author is a British Indian living in the US. The retailer is Canadian. The publisher is global. But I save £2.29 if I buy at the US store. In other words, buying from the UK store would be just over 50% more expensive. Does anyone really think the author, retailer or publisher would think that it was just as wrong for me to pirate the ebook? Last edited by pdurrant; 09-14-2013 at 01:03 PM. |
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What does it matter? If I can get stuff cheaper at Amazon.de I buy there. If it's cheaper at Amazon.co.uk, I get it there. If I want an e-book, I look into the various stores and get it at the cheapest one. (And Amazon must be WAY cheaper than the cheapest EPUB store, as I don't want AZW3 or MOBI books as a source format if I can help it.) In this case, Kobo UK and US are just competing; no matter it's the same company in the end. Why should you feel obliged to pay more? Quote:
Get it at Kobo US. I would. |
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09-14-2013, 12:13 PM | #180 |
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Quite frankly I feel that anybody who thinks there's any moral downside to this is stuck in a pre-internet, pre-globalisation world and needs to at least dip their toes in the current millennium asap.
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