Books not yet digital.

Syncman · 10-17-2012, 09:42 PM

As a newbie here, who is it that actually does the conversion of books to e-books? Bought a book by Gavin Lyall on Amazon, but the next one I want is not available, only as hard/soft cover. The NEW soft cover is selling for $200-00 plus.????

http://www.amazon.com/Wrong-Side-Sky...ds=gavin+lyall

How long before older books appear as digital versions? Is there a site where you can request a conversion?

Forgive my ignorance.

AnemicOak · 10-17-2012, 09:52 PM

The Wrong Side of the Sky was his first book, published in 1961. The rights most likely reside with his estate (or whoever inherited) unless the book is highly popular and has been kept in print all these years (looking at Amazon this doesn't appear to be the case). Either a publisher would have to pay the estate for the rights or his estate would have to self publish the book to get it out there as an ebook.

The $200 'new' copy is just a couple of third party sellers hoping someone might bite at that price.

You could always buy one of the cheap used copies and scan/ocr it if you want an ebook copy.

More on the authors works...
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/l/gavin-lyall/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Lyall

Hellmark · 10-18-2012, 04:56 AM

There are services like 1dollarscan.com, but the problem is most of those are destructive (meaning, the book will not remain in one piece). If you're going to spend $200 on a book, you probably don't want it to be cut up.

Format C: · 10-18-2012, 05:16 AM

I see a used hardcover for a little more than 5$. I suppose that one is worth ripping and scanning, even destructively...

Obviously, once you have bought and digitized the printed book, you have to keep it strictly for your personal use. For sure you cannot share it on the net, like some criminal has done in the past (as you can see googling around for illegal e-versions of that book).

Giggleton · 10-18-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Format C:

I see a used hardcover for a little more than 5$. I suppose that one is worth ripping and scanning, even destructively...

Obviously, once you have bought and digitized the printed book, you have to keep it strictly for your personal use. For sure you cannot share it on the net, like some criminal has done in the past (as you can see googling around for illegal e-versions of that book).

Are you sure? What if you read the printed book, send it to a digitizer but ask the digitizer to email the ebook to a friend instead of to yourself, because your friend wants to read the book but needs the larger font of an ebook? I'm not advocating piracy like some criminal, just wondering about sharing ebooks...

silverraven · 10-18-2012, 10:37 AM

Have you checked Open Library for it? I thought anyone could make an account there, and I see six of his books available to borrow on there. You didn't give the name of the specific book you were interested in, or I would have check that for you.
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Tarana · 10-21-2012, 02:47 PM

Many older books exist in eform because a fan went to the effort of either typing it in or scanning it into a computer and using OCR software to clean it up.

I plan to scan in 2 books by Frank Eric Russell. They likely will never be in print again and I can't read them in their current form.

ebusinesstutor · 10-21-2012, 03:35 PM

There is a service, https://unglue.it/, that is supposed to provide a crowdfunding approach where people contribute the money to buy the rights to a book to get it released under creative commons.

Not sure if you can recommend books to them or organize your own campaign though.

10-17-2012, 09:42 PM	#1
Syncman Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle Fire	Books not yet digital. As a newbie here, who is it that actually does the conversion of books to e-books? Bought a book by Gavin Lyall on Amazon, but the next one I want is not available, only as hard/soft cover. The NEW soft cover is selling for $200-00 plus.???? http://www.amazon.com/Wrong-Side-Sky...ds=gavin+lyall How long before older books appear as digital versions? Is there a site where you can request a conversion? Forgive my ignorance.

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10-17-2012, 09:52 PM	#2
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	The Wrong Side of the Sky was his first book, published in 1961. The rights most likely reside with his estate (or whoever inherited) unless the book is highly popular and has been kept in print all these years (looking at Amazon this doesn't appear to be the case). Either a publisher would have to pay the estate for the rights or his estate would have to self publish the book to get it out there as an ebook. The $200 'new' copy is just a couple of third party sellers hoping someone might bite at that price. You could always buy one of the cheap used copies and scan/ocr it if you want an ebook copy. More on the authors works... http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/l/gavin-lyall/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Lyall

10-18-2012, 04:56 AM	#3
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,549 Karma: 3799999 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: O'Fallon, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3	There are services like 1dollarscan.com, but the problem is most of those are destructive (meaning, the book will not remain in one piece). If you're going to spend $200 on a book, you probably don't want it to be cut up.

10-18-2012, 05:16 AM	#4
Format C: Guru Posts: 753 Karma: 1496807 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Third World Device: iLiad + PRS-505 + Kindle 3	I see a used hardcover for a little more than 5$. I suppose that one is worth ripping and scanning, even destructively... Obviously, once you have bought and digitized the printed book, you have to keep it strictly for your personal use. For sure you cannot share it on the net, like some criminal has done in the past (as you can see googling around for illegal e-versions of that book).

10-18-2012, 10:37 AM	#6
silverraven Guru Posts: 967 Karma: 3438612 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle 4NTB x 4	Have you checked Open Library for it? I thought anyone could make an account there, and I see six of his books available to borrow on there. You didn't give the name of the specific book you were interested in, or I would have check that for you. S

10-21-2012, 02:47 PM	#7
Tarana Wizard Posts: 3,977 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos	Many older books exist in eform because a fan went to the effort of either typing it in or scanning it into a computer and using OCR software to clean it up. I plan to scan in 2 books by Frank Eric Russell. They likely will never be in print again and I can't read them in their current form.

10-21-2012, 03:35 PM	#8
ebusinesstutor Star Gawker Posts: 526 Karma: 6944314 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Spruce Grove, AB Canada Device: Kindle Paperwhite	There is a service, https://unglue.it/, that is supposed to provide a crowdfunding approach where people contribute the money to buy the rights to a book to get it released under creative commons. Not sure if you can recommend books to them or organize your own campaign though.

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