[GUI Plugin] Count Pages

[jgaiser]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

In most cases, the page number for an eBook on Goodreads is actually wrong. That's why whenever I add an eBook to my library, I have to request it be fixed.

I'm curious where you're getting page numbers for ebooks. Since it depends of font, font size, line spacing, border widths, etc it would seem to impossible to get a valid/reliable page number. Even if you're using a pbook as the reference, it would depend on which pbook you're using.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by jgaiser

I'm curious where you're getting page numbers for ebooks. Since it depends of font, font size, line spacing, border widths, etc it would seem to impossible to get a valid/reliable page number. Even if you're using a pbook as the reference, it would depend on which pbook you're using.

You have that 100% incorrect. Adobe Digital Editions uses a page number based on 1024 characters per page. So no matter the settings, the page number will always be the same.

[cryzed]

And how is Adobe Digital Editions the universally accepted standard for ebook page counting?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cryzed

And how is Adobe Digital Editions the universally accepted standard for ebook page counting?

Because on Goodreads, Kindle eBooks have a separate entry. Thus, the eBook entry would be for ePub and given that ADE is the standard program for reading ePub and the page number doesn't change based on settings, there's no real reason not to use it's page number as the page number.

[cryzed]

ADE is not the standard program for reading ebooks just because it is the case for you, nevertheless I agree with you that having a set length of characters define a page would be a nice option.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by cryzed

ADE is not the standard program for reading ebooks just because it is the case for you, nevertheless I agree with you that having a set length of characters define a page would be a nice option.

It IS one of the most common EPUB standards. (Overdrive) Library books use ADE (it is just recent that Kindle format became available for Library users).
And Adobe was a big contributor to the standards committee.
My device uses this, thus it is MY standard also.

[PeterT]

Also many eReaders base their offering on the mobile version of ADE.

[jgaiser]

I just don't understand the concern about page numbers in ebooks. In the end it's pretty meaningless.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cryzed

ADE is not the standard program for reading ebooks just because it is the case for you, nevertheless I agree with you that having a set length of characters define a page would be a nice option.

Yes, ADE is the standard. If your device/app supports Adobe's DRM with ePub, then it's using ADE. Most readers that support ePub use ADE.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by jgaiser

I just don't understand the concern about page numbers in ebooks. In the end it's pretty meaningless.

It's a marker to know how large the eBook is as well as a marker to show how far you are from being finished or even to the end of the chapter.

So would you be OK if we took away any sort of indication of how far along in the eBook you were?

[jgaiser]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

So would you be OK if we took away any sort of indication of how far along in the eBook you were?

I've got a marker. It's called "Percentage". With an ebook, the only thing that matters (to me) is whether I'm 25%, 50% or 75% through. Page numbers are meaningless. But if you need page numbers, be my guest to worry about how correct they are. Whatever floats your boat.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by jgaiser

I've got a marker. It's called "Percentage". With an ebook, the only thing that matters (to me) is whether I'm 25%, 50% or 75% through. Page numbers are meaningless. But if you need page numbers, be my guest to worry about how correct they are. Whatever floats your boat.

IMHO
Any page size of the same size is better than a simple percentage.
2 pages: 50% = 1 page
400 (not displayed) pages: how many pages to go at 50%

I will take ADE's 200 of 400 count any day over just a percent (of an unknown)

[jgaiser]

Originally Posted by theducks

I will take ADE's 200 of 400 count any day over just a percent (of an unknown)

Percentage of an unknown? 50% of a book is 50% whether you count pages or just look at a percentage indicator. If you all want to worry about which algorithm gives you the most correct page number, have a ball.

[PeterT]

Originally Posted by theducks

I will take ADE's 200 of 400 count any day over just a percent (of an unknown)

I have to agree with theducks; knowing I am 200 of 400 through a book is FAR more useful than seeing 50%. That could be 50% of 100 pages or 10000 pages.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by jgaiser

I've got a marker. It's called "Percentage". With an ebook, the only thing that matters (to me) is whether I'm 25%, 50% or 75% through. Page numbers are meaningless. But if you need page numbers, be my guest to worry about how correct they are. Whatever floats your boat.

But if you have NO indication. No location, no page number, no progress bar, no percent, NOTHING AT ALL to tell you how far along you are in your book. Would you be happy with that?