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Old 03-13-2017, 10:45 PM   #61
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I wasnt taking offence I was apologising!
Interesting, I apologize for the misunderstanding. This is what happens when folks carelessly throw around exclamation points.
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:19 AM   #62
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The main point is that there's no way this will be a long term solution and people need to adjust their expectations accordingly.
Yeah, I agree. This is why I didn't go down the rabbit hole of not accepting updates to the Kindle application. I can't imagine that fix lasting too long before it no longer works. But I suppose the 'download USB' workaround will eventually hit a brick wall too?
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:07 AM   #63
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Yeah, I agree. This is why I didn't go down the rabbit hole of not accepting updates to the Kindle application. I can't imagine that fix lasting too long before it no longer works. But I suppose the 'download USB' workaround will eventually hit a brick wall too?
Not as long as older Kindles are still supported, as they can't handle the new format. Of course Amazon could decide to offer those of us with older devices a free replacement provided we turn in the old units to get them off the hook. If they did this with a notice that the older devices would no longer be supported after a firm deadline this would probably work.

At that point there would be no alternative except to look to those who dealt with the prior formats to deal with the new one. I suspect we have enough time for this to be done before the wall goes up.

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Old 03-14-2017, 10:10 AM   #64
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Yeah, I agree. This is why I didn't go down the rabbit hole of not accepting updates to the Kindle application. I can't imagine that fix lasting too long before it no longer works. But I suppose the 'download USB' workaround will eventually hit a brick wall too?
That's where my two years is coming from. If it was just the app it would be much less. But they can't obsolete those devices so fast, maybe they will first phase out new content or something like that.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:39 AM   #65
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I thought I asked this but I can't see my post. Does the version prior to 1.17 (1.15? Can't remember the version number) still work?
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Old 03-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #66
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I thought I asked this but I can't see my post. Does the version prior to 1.17 (1.15? Can't remember the version number) still work?
According to Amazon's Download & Install the Latest Version of Kindle for PC web page version 1.14.0 and later are currently still supported.
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I see Woot is having a "Kindle Extravaganza." Sale on refurbished Kindle Keyboard, 4th gen Kindle, and Kindle Touch. All of these support KF8, but not KFX. They also have 2nd gen Kindle, but that doesn't support KF8.

Something to think about for continued access to non-KFX formats. I got a Kindle Touch in a previous sale. It's kinda beat up, but I won't really be reading on it anyway.
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Old 03-15-2017, 09:13 AM   #68
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You can get old Kindles dirt-cheap on Goodwill if you're in the USA.
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Old 03-15-2017, 11:38 PM   #69
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I see Woot is having a "Kindle Extravaganza." Sale on refurbished Kindle Keyboard, 4th gen Kindle, and Kindle Touch. All of these support KF8, but not KFX. They also have 2nd gen Kindle, but that doesn't support KF8.

Something to think about for continued access to non-KFX formats. I got a Kindle Touch in a previous sale. It's kinda beat up, but I won't really be reading on it anyway.


I grabbed a refurbished Kindle Touch for $24.99!
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:33 PM   #70
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Interesting, the person who decided to move the discussion off topic seemingly takes offense that they were somehow questioned about their "out of the scope" comment?

@ltr If Amazon does in fact track things to that level I think they will eventually find some customers buying fewer books through their service. Personally I bought more books through Amazon once I was able to format shift the books. Since the writing is on the wall I have already started shifting my purchases to other sellers.
I have also actually Increased the number of books I have bought from Amazon kindle since being able to use calibre to convert it.

I had given up buying books from amazon kindle after trying their audible free trial, and moved to other sources such as google play and the gutenberg free libriary to get content I could use.

Calibre has allowed me to use the kindle content, and therefore led me back to amazon to buy more from them. I feel Amazon are benefiting from companies like Calibre.

I do understand amazon is known in the business world for being nefarious ( staff working conditions in the warehouses for example), however with books becoming ever more an online thing, and big players like google and microsoft taking an interest in providing online book/ written media content, Kindle / Amazon need to be careful not to be more restrictive and go the way of blockbuster video, and perhaps it might behoove hem to provide content in multiple formats or if that takes up too much server space then an interface on their own site / servers that uses something like calibre, to allow content to be converted into other formats (initial publisher allowing) once purchased- and as publishers have no problem allowing google play to allow epub versions then I do not see why they would not offer the same to kindle / amazon.

anywho - ust very very happy that Calibre exists and that they have gone further in their support to help their customers that some multinational megacompanies can be bothered to - and really really am grateful to be able to access my books again.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:58 AM   #71
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:57 AM   #73
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While the 1.17 solution works for now, Amazon is determined to move all their content to a proprietary format and use the near-monopoly of the kindle to drive this process. If you have downgraded from 1.19 to 1.17, Amazon knows who you are and why you have done it - dont imagine they arent watching this process at both a macro and a micro level. I give the worksround a maximum of 2 years. Not only readers but some publishers also dont like this but they are powerless against Amazon.
Powerless, really? If this happens, I will stop buying from Amazon (not only ebooks) and everybody concerned should do likewise!
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Powerless, really? If this happens, I will stop buying from Amazon (not only ebooks) and everybody concerned should do likewise!

I'm concerned, but I don't agree with you at all.

I'll buy from any site that legitimately sells what I wish to buy.
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I vote with my custom... Even if I have to pay a bit more.

I no longer deal with 'worst buy' over a in store order that went bad (for internet sale only?) ' They stalled for months and they failed to admit their oops (If they had said early on, Oops! I would have shrugged it off)
So the bottom line is:
1) I don't shop there.
2) I don't send anyone there.
Enough people have reason to do similar and their shareholder will get unhappy
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