Spam

JSWolf · 07-04-2018, 05:30 AM

With all the spam MR is having today, I think it;s time to add in a simple capcha to prevent this automated spam from being able to happen.

DiapDealer · 07-04-2018, 07:42 AM

It's not automated. Captcha would do nothing.

darryl · 07-04-2018, 07:46 AM

@JSWolf. It's good your thinking about the problem but I don't agree. Captcha's are a pain in the neck and often don't solve the problem anyway. If it's a labour intensive process to deal with the spam perhaps it's feasible to appoint some more mods to help deal with it. Just about any solution but captcha's please.

pdurrant · 07-04-2018, 07:59 AM

There's already bot detection on signup. But this spam isn't bots.

JSWolf · 07-04-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

There's already bot detection on signup. But this spam isn't bots.

How do you know it's not a script?

meeera · 07-04-2018, 09:59 AM

I'd much rather deal with occasionally and briefly seeing spam - and yes I saw the flood today before it was dealt with - than deal with captcha. And there are no good captcha systems that are fully accessible.

pdurrant · 07-04-2018, 10:12 AM

There is no chance whatsoever of MobileRead having a captcha system for posts by members.

DiapDealer · 07-04-2018, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

How do you know it's not a script?

Because we can catch them registering, we can catch them browsing the general forum, and we can catch them creating the new threads. They are real, live people creating accounts and creating threads. I could easily easily create the 3-6 pages worth of spam threads they create overnight by copying and pasting. If it was an automated bot, we'd stand no chance at keeping up with them. No chance whatsoever. They'd never stop. They'd create them faster than we could possibly ban/delete them if it were automated.

Our security isn't that lax. An unattended script can't register and create the 100s of threads we're seeing. If it could, we'd already be out of business.

DiapDealer · 07-04-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

There is no chance whatsoever of MobileRead having a captcha system for posts by members.

Agreed.

crich70 · 07-04-2018, 10:36 AM

When I reported one poster they had 14 posts, and by the time I was done typing it had only risen to 16 posts by that poster so it has to be a human who was doing that. A bot would have flooded the forum in that same time.

pdurrant · 07-04-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crich70

When I reported one poster they had 14 posts, and by the time I was done typing it had only risen to 16 posts by that poster so it has to be a human who was doing that. A bot would have flooded the forum in that same time.

Please no longer report the mass spam in General Discussions. It just takes our time up verifying that it's not a report of some other kind of spam. Thanks.

crich70 · 07-04-2018, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Please no longer report the mass spam in General Discussions. It just takes our time up verifying that it's not a report of some other kind of spam. Thanks.

Fine, you want to be 20-30 individual threads deep in spam by time someone notices it's your headache.

Terisa de morgan · 07-05-2018, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crich70

Fine, you want to be 20-30 individual threads deep in spam by time someone notices it's your headache.

Really? I think there is more chance of a message announcing it to be lost. The moment you look for new messages, you really have to dig IN THE SPAM to find a valid message, so I think it's quickly found.

issybird · 07-05-2018, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crich70

Fine, you want to be 20-30 individual threads deep in spam by time someone notices it's your headache.

Wow. Much appreciated. Thanks for the kind words in a difficult situation that's taking hours of time every day.

crich70 · 07-05-2018, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Wow. Much appreciated. Thanks for the kind words in a difficult situation that's taking hours of time every day.

I was a bit irritated. I only reported it so that it wouldn't grow to multiple pages and then Paul decided to chastise me for it, and did it publicly. Isn't that what the PM option is for? To discuss such in private? I'm just saying.

07-04-2018, 05:30 AM	#1
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,968 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Spam With all the spam MR is having today, I think it;s time to add in a simple capcha to prevent this automated spam from being able to happen.

07-04-2018, 07:42 AM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	It's not automated. Captcha would do nothing.

07-04-2018, 07:46 AM	#3
darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	@JSWolf. It's good your thinking about the problem but I don't agree. Captcha's are a pain in the neck and often don't solve the problem anyway. If it's a labour intensive process to deal with the spam perhaps it's feasible to appoint some more mods to help deal with it. Just about any solution but captcha's please.

07-04-2018, 07:59 AM	#4
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,506 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	There's already bot detection on signup. But this spam isn't bots.

07-04-2018, 09:59 AM	#6
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,658 Karma: 66420972 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	I'd much rather deal with occasionally and briefly seeing spam - and yes I saw the flood today before it was dealt with - than deal with captcha. And there are no good captcha systems that are fully accessible.

07-04-2018, 10:12 AM	#7
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,506 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	There is no chance whatsoever of MobileRead having a captcha system for posts by members.

07-04-2018, 10:36 AM	#10
crich70 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,305 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for Pc (netbook)	When I reported one poster they had 14 posts, and by the time I was done typing it had only risen to 16 posts by that poster so it has to be a human who was doing that. A bot would have flooded the forum in that same time.

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