kindle 3 pdf features

kuliand · 08-05-2010, 04:56 PM

Has any had a chance to play with the pdf pan and zoom features of the kindle 3 and how do they compare to older ebook readers?

Thanks still waiting to upgrade my sony prs505.

tomsem · 08-05-2010, 05:27 PM

PDF pan and zoom is available for all K2 and DX models. It will be unchanged in K3. The previous K1 has no PDF support.

At the moment, only privileged people have access to the K3, which we hope to see ship at the end of the month.

What's being added with the K3 is:
- dictionary lookup
- annotation/highlighting (unclear if it is true PDF annotation/highlighting, or something proprietary, or both)
- contrast adjustment to improve readability of material when color is converted to Kindle's greyscale.

What's still not there:
- PDF reflow
- PDF link support (for navigating TOC, endnotes, etc)

kuliand · 08-06-2010, 04:44 AM

Ok then i was unaware that the kindle 2 had the same feature. So does the pdf pan and zoom feature work better than the prs505 for reading textbooks etc.

And does the zoom feature make everything on the page bigger including pictures and images as the prs505 is hopeless in this area and breaks the flow of the document.

Jonas777 · 08-06-2010, 05:15 AM

Amazon says: "Improved PDF Reader: Now with new dictionary lookup, notes and highlights, and support for password protected PDFs." and also reflow is available if you convert the pdf to mobi using their service (which may or may not work...). But nothing about if zoom is changed in any way.

tomsem · 08-13-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuliand

Ok then i was unaware that the kindle 2 had the same feature. So does the pdf pan and zoom feature work better than the prs505 for reading textbooks etc.

And does the zoom feature make everything on the page bigger including pictures and images as the prs505 is hopeless in this area and breaks the flow of the document.

prs505 uses 'PDF reflow', which Kindle lacks. It only works well with properly tagged PDFs, with a properly defined reading order, or PDFs with simple layout (e.g. primarily pages of text). Pan/Zoom may well be better when those conditions are not met, but better still would be to have PDF reflow as an option as well, since that does work better for docs without many images and charts.

Blog Kindle · 12-15-2010, 01:01 AM

With Kindle 3 already out I'd hate to admit that while Kindle 3 PDF support is there and it is quite good, Sony is still way better in that department.

pboss · 12-16-2010, 12:43 AM

True. There's some room for improvement, but overall, it's pretty good nevertheless.

jocampo · 12-16-2010, 01:05 AM

Hi,

I do have the Kindle DX and Kindle 3. They both are really good with ability to zoom and pan but reading documents on the small Kindle is not a great experience; the bigger screen on the DX makes it better and almost no need to zoom. You can also use landscape mode that on the DX is almost everything you need. Pages turn are slow in the Kinde DX tought and firmware version on Kindle 3 is newer allowing couple of extra features.

jocampo · 12-16-2010, 01:07 AM

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08-05-2010, 04:56 PM	#1
kuliand Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 138 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: sony prs505	kindle 3 pdf features Has any had a chance to play with the pdf pan and zoom features of the kindle 3 and how do they compare to older ebook readers? Thanks still waiting to upgrade my sony prs505.

12-16-2010, 01:07 AM	#9
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	--duplicate post-- deleting Last edited by jocampo; 12-16-2010 at 01:09 AM.

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08-05-2010, 05:27 PM	#2
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,479 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	PDF pan and zoom is available for all K2 and DX models. It will be unchanged in K3. The previous K1 has no PDF support. At the moment, only privileged people have access to the K3, which we hope to see ship at the end of the month. What's being added with the K3 is: - dictionary lookup - annotation/highlighting (unclear if it is true PDF annotation/highlighting, or something proprietary, or both) - contrast adjustment to improve readability of material when color is converted to Kindle's greyscale. What's still not there: - PDF reflow - PDF link support (for navigating TOC, endnotes, etc)

08-06-2010, 04:44 AM	#3
kuliand Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 138 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: sony prs505	Ok then i was unaware that the kindle 2 had the same feature. So does the pdf pan and zoom feature work better than the prs505 for reading textbooks etc. And does the zoom feature make everything on the page bigger including pictures and images as the prs505 is hopeless in this area and breaks the flow of the document.

08-06-2010, 05:15 AM	#4
Jonas777 Groupie Posts: 153 Karma: 364 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sweden Device: Amazon Kindle 2 Intl	Amazon says: "Improved PDF Reader: Now with new dictionary lookup, notes and highlights, and support for password protected PDFs." and also reflow is available if you convert the pdf to mobi using their service (which may or may not work...). But nothing about if zoom is changed in any way.

12-15-2010, 01:01 AM	#6
Blog Kindle Addict Posts: 224 Karma: 25122 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 1/2/3/4/Touch/DX/Fire\|PRS-600/350\|Nook(color)\|iPad\|iPad2\|EVO 4G	With Kindle 3 already out I'd hate to admit that while Kindle 3 PDF support is there and it is quite good, Sony is still way better in that department.

12-16-2010, 12:43 AM	#7
pboss Evangelist Posts: 408 Karma: 646 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: none	True. There's some room for improvement, but overall, it's pretty good nevertheless.

12-16-2010, 01:05 AM	#8
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	Hi, I do have the Kindle DX and Kindle 3. They both are really good with ability to zoom and pan but reading documents on the small Kindle is not a great experience; the bigger screen on the DX makes it better and almost no need to zoom. You can also use landscape mode that on the DX is almost everything you need. Pages turn are slow in the Kinde DX tought and firmware version on Kindle 3 is newer allowing couple of extra features.

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