if you have more than one ereader, which size do you use more?

[Renate]

Originally Posted by LDB

I barely have enough hands for holding my device, much less another gadget to hold and operate.

Well, then don't hold your device. Set it on the desk. Install it on an articulated arm.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Renate

So, get some buttons. Detached buttons. A Bluetooth clicker.

Even a wired button box was any eye-opener for me.
Bluetooth keyfob is even more brilliant.

Given that many of us hold our ereaders in our hands while reading, it's a bit hard to hang on to another device as well. Perhaps more of your acquaintances are like the heroine on the book cover in the attached image?

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by Renate

Well, then don't hold your device. Set it on the desk. Install it on an articulated arm.

Seriously? You're suggesting getting an articulated arm and a dedicated button clicker as a simpler and/or preferable option to simply using a reader with its own buttons? An articulated arm would mean you can only read where it is installed, definitely suboptimal imo. This setup sounds postively Goldbergesque compared to the straightforward simplicity of holding the reader and clicking its own buttons - without any need to lug a desk and an articulaetd arm too the beach, bath, or bed if that's where one feels like reading at the time

[John F]

Originally Posted by Renate

So, get some buttons. Detached buttons. A Bluetooth clicker.

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Does the Bluetooth connection time out on Kobos (when using the Nickle reader)?

[Renate]

Originally Posted by John F

Does the Bluetooth connection time out on Kobos (when using the Nickle reader)?

Usually the timeout is dependent upon the Bluetooth device, not the host.
The bad thing about "selfie" clickers is that they usually have a 60 second timeout.
"Presentation" devices usually last longer but they are bigger and have a laser pointer. ("You'll shoot your eye out, kid.")
It's pretty much a crap shoot.
Order some (cheap) stuff from China and decide which one works for you.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Renate

Usually the timeout is dependent upon the Bluetooth device, not the host.
The bad thing about "selfie" clickers is that they usually have a 60 second timeout.
"Presentation" devices usually last longer but they are bigger and have a laser pointer. ("You'll shoot your eye out, kid.")
It's pretty much a crap shoot.
Order some (cheap) stuff from China and decide which one works for you.

Could you recommend a good small clicker that doesn't timeout, or has a long timeout (>10 minutes), preferably available on Amazon. Thank you.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by John F

Could you recommend a good small clicker that doesn't timeout, or has a long timeout (>10 minutes), preferably available on Amazon. Thank you.

My daughter got me this for Christmas, and honestly, it's my favorite gift this year:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9L8PK3G?th=1

Shari

[John F]

Originally Posted by shalym

My daughter got me this for Christmas, and honestly, it's my favorite gift this year:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9L8PK3G?th=1

Shari

And it works with Kobos and doesn't time out?

[Renate]

Originally Posted by shalym

My daughter got me this for Christmas, and honestly, it's my favorite gift this year:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9L8PK3G?th=1

Ouch! That's a horrible hack. It's not a remote control, it's a remote finger!
$40 is pretty expensive (because they have to include a receiver too).

That page has different modules.
Do you mean the one where you have to clip a receiver to the screen?
Wouldn't you rather have something that doesn't occlude the screen, that is only one piece?

Doesn't that work on infrared signalling?
It can't work with your hands under the covers.

On the normal Bluetooth ones I still see the standard complaint that they think that they are qwerty keyboards and disable on-screen keyboards unless you override it.

As I said, this is all a crap shoot because by the time you order the one your friend ordered and liked they have probably already changed the supplier/software.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by John F

And it works with Kobos and doesn't time out?

It will only work with a capacitive screen, and since it doesn't connect to the device using bluetooth, it won't time out.

Shari

[John F]

Originally Posted by shalym

It will only work with a capacitive screen, and since it doesn't connect to the device using bluetooth, it won't time out.

Shari

An interesting device. But it looks like it attaches over the screen? Doesn't it obscure the screen/text?

[shalym]

Originally Posted by Renate

Ouch! That's a horrible hack. It's not a remote control, it's a remote finger!
$40 is pretty expensive (because they have to include a receiver too).

That page has different modules.
Do you mean the one where you have to clip a receiver to the screen?
Wouldn't you rather have something that doesn't occlude the screen, that is only one piece?

Doesn't that work on infrared signalling?
It can't work with your hands under the covers.

On the normal Bluetooth ones I still see the standard complaint that they think that they are qwerty keyboards and disable on-screen keyboards unless you override it.

As I said, this is all a crap shoot because by the time you order the one your friend ordered and liked they have probably already changed the supplier/software.

It definitely does work with your hands under the covers...that's how I use it. It doesn't "occlude the screen", because it only needs to be touching the screen about 1/8" in from the side, and I like margins in my ebooks. I guess if you set your books so that the text goes all the way to the edge, this wouldn't work for you. It works great for me, though, and is a wonderful solution for keeping my hands under the covers while I read in bed. Also, because the actual remote is attached to my finger, I don't lose it if/when I fall asleep while reading.

Sorry that it's not something that you're interested in, but maybe there are other people that may find it just as wonderful as I do.

Shari

[shalym]

Originally Posted by John F

An interesting device. But it looks like it attaches over the screen? Doesn't it obscure the screen/text?

As I said in my other post, it only needs to be touching the screen about 1/8" in from the side. If you use margins, like I do, it obscures nothing.

Shari

[John F]

Shalym, thank you for the info. If Kobo doesn't come up with something, I may get one. Unfortunately, I have very narrow margins. The pictures on the Amazon site look like more then 1/8" overhang.

Does it physically tap the screen each time you push a button? Both devices are rechargable?

[Renate]

Originally Posted by shalym

It definitely does work with your hands under the covers...

Oh, it's hard to tell how it's operating. I saw the small "window" on the device and presumed that it was infrared.

Originally Posted by shalym

Sorry that it's not something that you're interested in...

But I am interested in it!
It's just that there are many finger ring Bluetooth devices that don't need a receiver clipped to your ereader and if that is possible to get working it would be a better option in my opinion. Also, doesn't this only go forward?

As I'm mentioned elsewhere, I'm using custom hardware and custom software to get what (for me) is the ultimate solution. I can go forward/back (which I tend to do a lot), check the time (I don't want a clock on a normal page) and most especially, I can flip between the text and the notes in the back of the book. I prefer a key fob to a ring.