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Old 06-02-2014, 08:33 PM   #1
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Converting Edited Book

I'm confused.

I edited the AZW. But when I then convert to PDF, Calibre doesn't seem to be converting the edited version.

I'm trying to get rid of massive amounts of extraneous whitespace (re-flow the document). I can;t reflow the PDF. I can edit and merge files in the AZW and EPub but if those aren't used to create the PDF...

Help?
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I'm confused.

I edited the AZW. But when I then convert to PDF, Calibre doesn't seem to be converting the edited version.

I'm trying to get rid of massive amounts of extraneous whitespace (re-flow the document). I can;t reflow the PDF. I can edit and merge files in the AZW and EPub but if those aren't used to create the PDF...

Help?
When you convert, be sure it uses AZW3 and not Original_AZW3

(same goes for EPUB)
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:41 AM   #3
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The ORIGINAL_AZW3 will be created any time you do an AZW3-to-AZW3 conversion, or use Polish Book/Modify EPUB.

Same goes for EPUB, of course.

(If you are using Edit Book, it won't create ORIGINAL_FMT backups. But you may have also done conversions.)
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When you convert, be sure it uses AZW3 and not Original_AZW3

(same goes for EPUB)
Is there a way to do this on a case-by-case basis?
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:29 AM   #5
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Is there a way to do this on a case-by-case basis?
When you do a Single (title) conversion, there is a pull_down on the Upper Left to choose the SOURCE format. You don't get the choice when doing bulk (many titles selected) conversions
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When you do a Single (title) conversion, there is a pull_down on the Upper Left to choose the SOURCE format. You don't get the choice when doing bulk (many titles selected) conversions
You are not offered the ORIGINAL_FMT vs FMT formats in the conversion dialog, even the individual one. That will let you choose EPUB over AZW3, but conversion IIRC will always use ORIGINAL_FMT if available.

You can fix this by deleting the ORIGINAL_FMT. There is no other way IIRC.
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You are not offered the ORIGINAL_FMT vs FMT formats in the conversion dialog, even the individual one. That will let you choose EPUB over AZW3, but conversion IIRC will always use ORIGINAL_FMT if available.

You can fix this by deleting the ORIGINAL_FMT. There is no other way IIRC.
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The save_original_format tweak offers this explanation for why the ORIGINAL_xxxx files are created

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When calibre does a conversion from the same format to the same format, for example, from EPUB to EPUB, the original file is saved, so that in case the conversion is poor, you can tweak the settings and run it again.

By setting this to False you can prevent calibre from saving the original file.

Similarly, by setting save_original_format_when_polishing to False you can prevent calibre from saving the original file when polishing.
Given that is the developers rationale for creating the ORIGINAL_xxxx files, surely it follows that once a satisfactory conversion/polish is obtained one ought to remove the ORIGINAL_xxxx format file. My impression is that confusion arises when they're left lying around.

FWIW I have both flags set to False. I prefer to address the issue of securing and recovering 'last known good' ebook format files myself.

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The save_original_format tweak offers this explanation for why the ORIGINAL_xxxx files are created



Given that is the developers rationale for creating the ORIGINAL_xxxx files, surely it follows that once a satisfactory conversion/polish is obtained one ought to remove the ORIGINAL_xxxx format file. My impression is that confusion arises when they're left lying around.

FWIW I have both flags set to False. I prefer to address the issue of securing and recovering 'last known good' ebook format files myself.

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I don't understand the rational on using Original_X for any purpose EXCEPT when things went south during an operation on that file when it was king.

In my mind Original =BAK (and if it exists, it is never replaced. You would need to first delete that so a new one might be created)

all operations should use the CURRENT version, not a backup (excep the one that 'Restore X from original' )
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