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Revised versions of children’s books - and others
More decades ago than I care to remember, Nancy Drew and Encyclopedia Brown got me started on mysteries. And now the first Nancy Drew book, The Secret of the Old Clock, by Carolyn Keene, is on sale at Kindle and Kobo US for $1.99, and priced at £1.49 in the UK. Sadly, with one exception, the rest of the 163 (!!!) books are mostly $8.99 and up in the US and £5.99 and up in the UK. (At least for the first thirty or so, which is all I had time to check, since for some reason, "sort by price" doesn't seem to be working for me this morning...) Which is not going to encourage me in more than one trip down memory lane, nor is it going to encourage parents to buy these books for their kids, to get their kids hooked on reading. (The exception is the fourth book in the series, Mystery at Lilac Inn, which is also £1.49 in the UK, but still expensive in the US....) Anyway, here are links:
The Secret of the Old Clock Kindle US: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001R11CJY/ Kobo US: https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the...imited-edition Kindle UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001R11CJY Mystery at Lilac Inn Kindle UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001R9DI66 Oh, and BTW, the first one is supposedly an "80th Anniversary Edition" with bonus material. Which I guess limits the number of decades ago it could have been for me . |
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PRH needs to update the blurb; The Secret of the Old Clock was published in 1930. Unfortunately, this is the revised edition and IMNSHO, the revised editions stink. They were dumbed down; they’re shorter and have simpler sentence structure. And then there’s the updated material which never is successful; ultimately books like this can’t be updated. They become inconsistent gobbledegook. How many dirt roads with a bridge out does one drive down these days? And all those telegrams with vital information! I admit it; if the original versions became available in ebook, I’d buy at least a few. However, I find the revised books unreadable. One final point: for Canadians and others in Life+50 countries, Faded Page has this and a few other revised Nancy Drews as well as some originals later in the series available. |
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Thank you. I was looking at grabbing it but couldn't find whether it was the revised one or not. I'll stick with the originals too.
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The Nancy Drew books started being revised back in 1959. If the books you read had the familiar yellow covers with a painting, it was a revised edition. |
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Wow - I had no idea there were revised versions, but I would have been reading a few years after the revisions started, so I probably would have read a mix. I remember reading some old ones I had gotten from relatives, but also I remember saving up my allowance and buying some new ones, which probably would have been the revised ones. I guess I just wasn't a very discriminating reader in those days, because AFAIR, I liked them all...
Also not all that sure I'm a discriminating reader now either! Anyway, someday now I'll have to see if my box of old Nancy Drews has survived in my dad's garage (!!!), and see which ones I really had... ADD: The ones which really annoyed me were the Cherry Ames/nurse series. I never understood why she had to be the nurse, and not the doctor. So I gave up on those pretty fast. Last edited by sufue; 10-23-2021 at 09:45 AM. |
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But the nurse/doctor gender thing, even though I didn't know how to express it at the time, was too much. So I never really got far enough into the series to notice any errors, but you have to wonder where a decent editor was? What's funny for me personally is that I remember my mom, who graduated from college herself in the early 1950s (BA and MBA), when it wasn't all that common for women, subtly discouraging me from reading that series, and years later I began to figure out why... |
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I see you and I did the same deep research
I was curious enough to take a trip to Canada and snag a copy of The Secret of the Old Clock in what should be its original version (she looks a bit like a flapper on the cover). For kids detective series, I'd lean more on Encyclopedia Brown and the Bellairs books, partly because I find the syndicate ownership with pen names and editing of The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew distasteful (though honestly, the editing bothers me less than the other things). Last edited by ZodWallop; 10-23-2021 at 01:24 PM. |
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I liked Encyclopedia Brown as well, but I really got into the Three Investigators series, which led me into Alfred Hitchcock movies. |
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10-23-2021, 06:22 PM | #12 |
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I wasn’t going to comment, but since I’m back in the thread I’ll say that I wasn’t researching at Wikipedia, just looking for a handy quote. I know my Nancy Drew.
As for the rest, and this is what brought me back, is the girl issue. It’s, I’ll say it, biased, to dismiss Nancy Drew and suggest only boy detectives in her place. That is what made Nancy Drew awesome; a girl with agency! A girl that grown men listened to! Girls need to read books like that and Nancy while not the first (I really do like kids lit from the early 20th century) was easily the most compelling. If you’re looking for a girl detective more grounded in reality, I’d suggest the early Trixie Belden books. Again, there’s the unfortunate updating and as with all series, they deteriorated and became less credible. Still, for the young girl in your life, I’d go with that. And I liked the Three Investigators; Encyclopedia Brown is too much of a gimmick. |
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Yeah, I liked the Trixie Belden books, as did a niece in the early 2000's when i found some at antique sales. The first few, before they get too formulaic (as all such series's do).
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I don't care what others read and didn't argue when my kid read a Nancy Drew book (Sleepover Sleuths). They just aren't my thing and never were. Last edited by ZodWallop; 10-23-2021 at 09:58 PM. |
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Sure, it was a great way to teach kids to look for clues in the text. Our teachers used to read the chapters to the class and get us to guess. They were better than the other “mini-mysteries” out there. But sometimes, the solutions were too forced. And the stories could be even more formulaic than Nancy Drew. (Why the bully didn’t end up either in jail or running for mayor I’ll never know…) This was always an issue for those “mini-mysteries.” I seem to remember there was one where the sleuth figured out someone claiming to be an English professor was a fake because the sleuth told him to “scan” a document for clues, and he quickly read it (skimmed it); instead of quickly looking over the paper (scanning it). Come on! |
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