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DOJ reiterates need for Apple punishments; gets support from Kobo
For those of you who have spent the last few days in an isolation chamber, the DOJ is proposing an injunction prohibiting Apple from making pricing deals for five years and allowing e-book app vendors to link to their own stores for two years. Meanwhile, the five publishers who had previously settled in the e-book pricing case, ganged up once again, this time with a legal brief opposing the proposed penalties against Apple. Though this might have backfired a little. The Verge reports:
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First the stake, then the fire!
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The Associated Press is reporting that Judge Cote denied Apple's request to suspend the ruling. Tick tock, things are moving along.
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Did anyone bring matches?
The only thing more poetic might be a President talking about "evil doers." |
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While the publishing industry apologists harp about Amazon, it is Kobo, Sony and Nook that are foremost among the many epub vendors that stand to gain from the proposed remedies.
Nook, for some reason, seems unwilling to step up and admit that they are the biggest victim of the conspiracy but at least Kobo is willing to stand up for their own best interests. Now if only the BPHs realized how counterproductive their stance is and actually started looking after their own long term interests... |
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I realize that if they go belly up, they can't produce better titles. But there's the middle ground of accepting modest profits or going non-profit, which is where many publishers already are. |
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I believe that the CFA antitrust lawyer stated it perfectly.
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Gosh, I am shocked, shocked I tell you to find that the lead DOJ anti-trust lawyer thinks that Apple should be punished even harsher, or to find that the trial judge who wrote the majority of her decision before the trial even started declined suspend the ruling.
Right now, I think that Apple is looking forward to the appeal process where some judges a little less invested in the decision can take a look at it. |
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Tell me. Is there anyone here who would honestly say they would be happy if their employer tells them that they ought to work for free or be satisfied with a modest salary? I suspect that the vast majority would start looking for another job. Why should book sellers, publishers and authors be any different? |
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Books will be published, following more efficient routes to the market. Just like any other business, the big publishing houses have to react to changes in the marketplace and compete. Graham |
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So, sure, the first 112 pages or so 'could have been' written before the trial, based on the known history and the detailed evidence presented to the judge as part of the trial before the actual courtroom sessions, but there's no evidence that they actually were written at that point, as you contend. And even if they were, that wouldn't negate the reasoning presented in the remaining 47 pages of the document. The judge's pre-courtoom deliberations and tentative reading of the evidence, as requested by both Apple and the DOJ, are just as valid a part of the overall trial as the subsequent courtroom arguments. She was handed the evidence in detail. She formed a preliminary opinion on that evidence, as requested by Apple and the DOJ, and then proceeded to the courtroom with her 'homework' done. Graham Last edited by Graham; 08-10-2013 at 07:37 AM. Reason: spelling. |
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