MobileRead February 2013 Book Club Vote - Page 8

Bookpossum · 01-26-2013, 08:03 PM

I would certainly support a nomination of Stardust wherever appropriate. I love Neil Gaiman's books.

caleb72 · 01-26-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Stardust is an adventure, so let's nominate it for March. If it does not win, it's a classic tale, so it fits in with April, so again, let's try to get Stardust nominated. Stardust won the Mythpoeic Award for best adult fairy tale. That means it qualifies for June.

I think Stardust fits into quite a few categories. Adventure, Fantasy, Award Winners etc..

It's a marvellous story that I devoured on first reading. I didn't mind the movie, but it was as if it were a separate story altogether for me.

issybird · 01-26-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

ALICE! You've made up for that time where I voted for On the Beach and it didn't make it. I get to read and discuss Shute. Woohoo!

I've never read him. I hope he isn't dreadful.

He's pretty dreadful. Alice is a good read but a bad book. IMO, of course.

As for Stardust, don't we have a rule that says a book can't be renominated for six months? It resulted from a certain book's nomination for several months, no matter what the category.

ETA: Yes, we do. Here it is:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...p;postcount=46

caleb72 · 01-26-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

He's pretty dreadful. Alice is a good read but a bad book. IMO, of course.

Wow! Have you read everything?!

issybird · 01-26-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

Wow! Have you read everything?!

I haven't read Stardust! So we're even.

WT Sharpe · 01-27-2013, 08:47 AM

A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute it is. The 1956 film was known in the United States as Rape of Malaya. Sounds really upbeat.

issybird · 01-27-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute it is. The 1956 film was known in the United States as Rape of Malaya. Sounds really upbeat.

The book was originally released in the USA under the title of The Legacy. Sounds really dull.

Hamlet53 · 01-27-2013, 11:02 AM

It appears that the entire serialization for television is available in parts on Youtube. I saw a number of episodes of this years ago and found it very enjoyable.

I have read Stardust and found it an enjoyable adult fairy tale. In my opinion there is not much there that would generate much discussion.

Billi · 01-27-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Sounds really dull.

Sounds as if someone would really have preferred another book to win!

Bookpossum · 01-27-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

He's pretty dreadful. Alice is a good read but a bad book. IMO, of course.

As for Stardust, don't we have a rule that says a book can't be renominated for six months? It resulted from a certain book's nomination for several months, no matter what the category.

ETA: Yes, we do. Here it is:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...p;postcount=46

Ah, I didn't realise that was the case, but I can see it's a sensible rule.

JSWolf · 01-27-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

The book was originally released in the USA under the title of The Legacy. Sounds really dull.

These is one time we agree.

JSWolf · 01-27-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bookpossum

Ah, I didn't realise that was the case, but I can see it's a sensible rule.

(IMHO), I cannot. It means that a good book that didn't win a given month has less chance then ever of winning as people who do want to read it won't ait six months and read it before then. So when it's allowed to be nominated, too many will already have read it and it won't win.

I feel if it is appropriate for the category, it should be allowed as long as it has not previously won.

I think we need to have a vote on this.

caleb72 · 01-28-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

(IMHO), I cannot. It means that a good book that didn't win a given month has less chance then ever of winning as people who do want to read it won't ait six months and read it before then. So when it's allowed to be nominated, too many will already have read it and it won't win.

I feel if it is appropriate for the category, it should be allowed as long as it has not previously won.

I think we need to have a vote on this.

I think the rule came in at the end of 2011 for the year 2012. I don't know if the rule was discussed coming up to 2013. Is it too late to have a rule change for this year?

However, what you're talking about is exactly why the rule was put into place - to stop someone nominating the same book over and over again - which it sounded like you very much intended to do with Startdust a few posts back.

I wouldn't support or oppose the current rule or a change to it personally. I don't have enough feelings about it either way. I understand the rule, but wonder at the need to legislate on this in particular.

And I guess that's the sum total of my thoughts on it.

JSWolf · 01-28-2013, 09:32 AM

Rule changes have been done via popular vote. We didn't have a vote on the six month ban on a book in the vote. So (IMHO) because we've not had the vote, the six month rule is null and void until it's voted on.

sun surfer · 01-28-2013, 09:51 AM

In my opinion, it's a very, very good and needed rule, and it's worked fantastically since it was implemented.

The way I understand it, there is no expiry date on the rule and it's rightfully past the time for discussing rule changes for 2013. (though that probably won't stop Jon from requesting changes all through the year

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View Poll Results: Which book shall we read for February's discussion?
Portrait of Jennie by Robert Nathan	13	20.63%
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov	14	22.22%
Circle of Friends by Maeve Binchy	5	7.94%
The Greatest Knight by Elizabeth Chadwick	8	12.70%
Shards of Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold	10	15.87%
Outlander by Diana Gabaldon	14	22.22%
Water for Elephants by Sara Gruen	10	15.87%
A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute	24	38.10%
Love Story by Erich Segal	11	17.46%
Stardust by Neil Gaiman	22	34.92%
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01-26-2013, 08:03 PM	#106
Bookpossum Snoozing in the sun Posts: 10,137 Karma: 115423645 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch	I would certainly support a nomination of Stardust wherever appropriate. I love Neil Gaiman's books.

01-27-2013, 08:47 AM	#111
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute it is. The 1956 film was known in the United States as Rape of Malaya. Sounds really upbeat.

01-27-2013, 11:02 AM	#113
Hamlet53 Nameless Being	It appears that the entire serialization for television is available in parts on Youtube. I saw a number of episodes of this years ago and found it very enjoyable. I have read Stardust and found it an enjoyable adult fairy tale. In my opinion there is not much there that would generate much discussion.

01-28-2013, 09:32 AM	#119
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,877 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Rule changes have been done via popular vote. We didn't have a vote on the six month ban on a book in the vote. So (IMHO) because we've not had the vote, the six month rule is null and void until it's voted on.

01-28-2013, 09:51 AM	#120
sun surfer languorous autodidact ✦ Posts: 4,235 Karma: 44637926 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: smiling with the rising sun Device: onyx boox poke 2 colour, kindle voyage	In my opinion, it's a very, very good and needed rule, and it's worked fantastically since it was implemented. The way I understand it, there is no expiry date on the rule and it's rightfully past the time for discussing rule changes for 2013. (though that probably won't stop Jon from requesting changes all through the year )