Justified text or not? - Page 7

DNSB · 10-06-2022, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

What's the KTE driver? How would you use it to enable kepub hyphenation?

KTE is the KoboTouchExtended driver. One of it's options is to hyphenate files. See the attached image for that page of it's customization (the only one that is different from the KoboTouch driver).

PunkyKoopa · 10-07-2022, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

If the epub has text-align: justify;, your Kobo using the RMSDK renderer will not override it. Much the same as the margin slider will increase the margins but not reduce them below what the epub is set to use. Much the same for the line height. One reason why I remove text-align, line-height, etc. for body or basic paragraph material while leaving it for special items.

There have been quite a few semi-religious arguments over whether or not Kobo should respect the styles set in the epub.

And there is some easy way to change that behaviour without editing the book?

Uncle Robin · 10-07-2022, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkyKoopa

And there is some easy way to change that behaviour without editing the book?

Yes - Use KOReader. And no, it won't void your warranty anymore than any of the patches discussed here will.

ZodWallop · 10-07-2022, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

KTE is the KoboTouchExtended driver. One of it's options is to hyphenate files. See the attached image for that page of it's customization (the only one that is different from the KoboTouch driver).

Doh! I have KoboTouchExtended, I'm just not hip with the acronyms. I work with the government and have had it up to here with acronyms!

DNSB · 10-07-2022, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkyKoopa

And there is some easy way to change that behaviour without editing the book?

No easy way that I know of other than an old utility that will remove all stylesheets from an ePub. Something about tossing the baby out with the bathwater comes to mind.

PunkyKoopa · 10-07-2022, 04:22 PM

Thank you for your help!

It seems that both formats (or better said, both readers) have their compromises.

JSWolf · 10-07-2022, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkyKoopa

Thank you for your help!

It seems that both formats (or better said, both readers) have their compromises.

That is correct.

PunkyKoopa · 10-08-2022, 06:57 PM

Well. I have to thank all of you guys.

With the better dictionary for the hyphens, the better spacing and the optimizeLegibility...the difference is day and night. With these three settings combine, it looks much better now.

The only downside I have seen so far is that now I have hyphens on left aligned text (the second option on the [Aa] menu) and I feel that it kinds breaks the purpose of the ragged right text, though the edges looks more balanced now.

JSWolf · 10-08-2022, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkyKoopa

Well. I have to thank all of you guys.

With the better dictionary for the hyphens, the better spacing and the optimizeLegibility...the difference is day and night. With these three settings combine, it looks much better now.

The only downside I have seen so far is that now I have hyphens on left aligned text (the second option on the [Aa] menu) and I feel that it kinds breaks the purpose of the ragged right text, though the edges looks more balanced now.

I suggest you try fully justified and see what you think with the new setup.

jospalau · 10-09-2022, 03:43 AM

Really interesting post. Why not using KOReader? For me the main advantage is I can sync all the info including reading stats which are amazing among the different devices with different technologies I use to read and I can tweak nearly everything. Is it using kepub format that crucial? Just curious.

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PunkyKoopa · 10-09-2022, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I suggest you try fully justified and see what you think with the new setup.

With justification turned on (or off to use the book setting if it is justified, the setting I use to respect the chapter header alignment) in the [Aa] menu, it looks awesome.

JSWolf · 10-09-2022, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkyKoopa

With justification turned on (or off to use the book setting if it is justified, the setting I use to respect the chapter header alignment) in the [Aa] menu, it looks awesome.

The think you may want to be careful of is what font you use. Some fonts do not work in KePub with the spacing patch. They display, but they do not look good. Slab serif type fonts such a Bookerly do not look good. Rakuten Serif also does not look good. Some others do look good such as ChareInk and Georgia.

PunkyKoopa · 10-09-2022, 06:17 AM

Are you sure? At least with the 0.05em both look good to my eyes.

Maybe you have set a narrower value?

JSWolf · 10-09-2022, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkyKoopa

Are you sure? At least with the 0.05em both look good to my eyes.

Maybe you have set a narrower value?

I do. I've set it to -0.07em. It looks better with fonts such as ChareInk and Georgia.

PunkyKoopa · 10-09-2022, 07:53 AM

So that could cause other fonts look worse, right? Again, it’s a compromise. I kinda like Bookerly so I will stick with 0.05 for a while.

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10-07-2022, 04:22 PM	#96
PunkyKoopa Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 243754 Join Date: Jan 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	Thank you for your help! It seems that both formats (or better said, both readers) have their compromises.

10-08-2022, 06:57 PM	#98
PunkyKoopa Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 243754 Join Date: Jan 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	Well. I have to thank all of you guys. With the better dictionary for the hyphens, the better spacing and the optimizeLegibility...the difference is day and night. With these three settings combine, it looks much better now. The only downside I have seen so far is that now I have hyphens on left aligned text (the second option on the [Aa] menu) and I feel that it kinds breaks the purpose of the ragged right text, though the edges looks more balanced now.

10-09-2022, 03:43 AM	#100
jospalau Groupie Posts: 173 Karma: 1074916 Join Date: Jan 2021 Device: Likebook Ares	Really interesting post. Why not using KOReader? For me the main advantage is I can sync all the info including reading stats which are amazing among the different devices with different technologies I use to read and I can tweak nearly everything. Is it using kepub format that crucial? Just curious. Sent from my CPH2021 using Tapatalk

10-09-2022, 06:17 AM	#103
PunkyKoopa Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 243754 Join Date: Jan 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	Are you sure? At least with the 0.05em both look good to my eyes. Maybe you have set a narrower value?

10-09-2022, 07:53 AM	#105
PunkyKoopa Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 243754 Join Date: Jan 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	So that could cause other fonts look worse, right? Again, it’s a compromise. I kinda like Bookerly so I will stick with 0.05 for a while.