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I seem to remember that story hitting the news late September / early October, 2017 when they pled guilty under a plea bargain. 8-9 months for sentencing on a guilty plea? The mills of justice are long past grinding slowly and are now giving continental drift competition.
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Not what I meant. They made a plea bargain and pled guilty in early October 2017 and it took till June 2018 for them to be sentenced? 8 months between the guilty pleas and sentencing? I wonder what, if any, kind of credit they got against their sentences for that time if it was spent in custody? Around here, the usual number is 2:1 so they would get 16 months knocked off their jail time.
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They stole 1.2 million. (That would be a lot of people not getting the packages they paid for.) Are you saying you think 6 years, is too harsh a sentence?
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Ken they were Not stealing from other customers...
DNSB Plea bargains don't mean a thing until they are a done deal as in agreed restitution & Time served is finished. I don't believe that this is the Same People. Cause these folks are also going to be charged with FEDERAL Offence |
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Looking at a story from Oct. 1, 2017 (Douglas Walker, The Star Press): MUNCIE, Ind. – A Muncie couple have formally admitted to stealing more than $1.2 million in merchandise from online retail giant Amazon. Erin Joseph Finan, 38, and Leah Jeanette Finan, 37, in recent weeks pleaded guilty to mail fraud and money laundering in U.S. District Court in Indianapolis. Judge Tanya Walton Pratt set sentencing hearings for Nov. 9. Both charges carry maximum 20-year prison terms and $500,000 fines and the story from June 4, 2018 (Abrar Al-Heeti, CNET News): The US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Indiana said Monday that Erin and Leah Finan, both 38, who had previously pleaded guilty to charges of federal mail fraud and money laundering, were sentenced to 71 months and 68 months in jail, respectively. A third perpetrator, Danijel Glumac, 29, who had pleaded guilty to money laundering and to buying and selling the Finans' stolen property across state lines, was sentenced to 24 months in prison. The original sentencing date was given as November 9, 2017. Again my question was why the over 8 month delay between the trial and the sentencing? Nothing to do with how long the sentences are, just why did it take that long between the end of the trial and the sentencing hearing. As for "are also going to be charged with FEDERAL Offence", I would suspect that since they pled guilty in a federal court to charges that included federal mail fraud and money laundering (see Money Laundering Control Act of 1986), they were already charged with federal offences. About being sentenced to spent their time in federal prison, I don't know how that works in the USA. Around here, sentences up to 2 years less a day land in provincial prisons while 2 years and up land in federal prisons. Hopefully, my quotes are short enough to constitute fair use. Last edited by DNSB; 06-13-2018 at 01:47 AM. Reason: fat fingers cause typos... |
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In the US you can be charged with buying stolen merchandise if the authorities decide that you paid to low a price and should have known that something was wrong with the sale.
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We have had similar cases here with jewelers buying gold jewelry.
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Looking at the amount reported as being required to be repaid by the three parties who were convicted, my impression is that they were not asking well under market value prices.
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