Onyx Boox M96 - Page 3

zeng · 11-22-2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamba66

So the 13.3 Model will have a 1600x1200 resolution (150 DPI) ?

What about the M95, does it have the same resolution/DPI as the M92??

I don't see alot of differences between the M92 and the M95, the M95 seems to be a revamped M92 with Android

Yes, the 13.3 model has 1600x1200 resolution.

The M95 uses the same screen of M92 but with powerful processor, larger memory and android 2.3.

iampiti · 11-22-2013, 11:36 AM

Zeng, thanks for all the useful information. One more question, what about the M96? Sounds like it'll be very similar to the M95 but with Android 4.0. Thanks!
On another topic: What's the use of Bluetooth on an e-reader? To connect bluetooth headphones?

gamba66 · 11-22-2013, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeng

Yes, the 13.3 model has 1600x1200 resolution.

The M95 uses the same screen of M92 but with powerful processor, larger memory and android 2.3.

Sorry to say, but that is disappointing, especially when the M92 Linux software has reached a relatively stable and acceptable level.

I doubt Android 2.3 or 4.0 will bring any major benefits especially if you look at the already released onyx readers.. Maybe even drawbacks concerning the battery life (linux is very conservative with battery power)

I am looking forward though to the 13.3" Model, although I would prefer a different OS than Android

zeng · 11-22-2013, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iampiti

Zeng, thanks for all the useful information. One more question, what about the M96? Sounds like it'll be very similar to the M95 but with Android 4.0. Thanks!
On another topic: What's the use of Bluetooth on an e-reader? To connect bluetooth headphones?

The difference between M95 and M96 are

* different processor
* different screen. M95 uses 50Hz refresh rate pearl screen, while M96 will use 85Hz refresh rate carta screen. But we don't have idea when the carta will be available, that's the reason we introduce M95.

The bluetooth can be used to connect external input device with eReader.

zeng · 11-23-2013, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamba66

Sorry to say, but that is disappointing, especially when the M92 Linux software has reached a relatively stable and acceptable level.

I doubt Android 2.3 or 4.0 will bring any major benefits especially if you look at the already released onyx readers.. Maybe even drawbacks concerning the battery life (linux is very conservative with battery power)

I am looking forward though to the 13.3" Model, although I would prefer a different OS than Android

Not really, both of us can benefit from Android. For developers, it's easy to develop, debug and deploy applications. For end users, they can install lot of applications. In next coming 5 years, I cannot see any other alternative OS. We will put most of our resource on Android.

Jmirko · 11-23-2013, 03:36 AM

I, for one, am really looking forward to Android on the M92. I was about to put it on ebay because the software doesn't support my note-taking workflow. With Androud, I should be able to install any number of scribble apps, which means my M92 will get a new life.
That said, the 13-inch device will be the real killer for office use! If the price is sensible, I will definitely get one.

chexmix · 11-23-2013, 06:01 PM

I wish -- I really do -- that I felt I could look forward to future Boox products. But I cannot. Even if I get my M92 fully functional again, getting it partially functional has been a protracted nightmare.

... which is too bad, because I'd really like to have a good large-format e-reader. That's why I bought this thing in the first place.

rogerpiano · 11-24-2013, 02:40 AM

To the list of professionals who could use a reader with large display, I would add the musicians. I am one of them and my M92 is doing its job very well, although for A4 size it would take a slightly larger display (I would prefer a 12" as a good compromise between portability and reading)
@ Zeng: could you tell us if and when it will be available Android OS for M92?
@ Seaniko7: plan to release updates to your OS Obuntu?
Thank you!

Dan23 · 11-24-2013, 08:25 PM

Please make the 13.3 as light as the sony one. Thanks.

seaniko7 · 11-25-2013, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerpiano

@ Seaniko7: plan to release updates to your OS Obuntu?
Thank you!

Yeah, working on that. Also, I'm wondering whether to leave Obuntu as is and resurrect OpenInkpot for Onyx (*92/*62/*96/this 13.3 inch thing) instead.

zeng · 11-25-2013, 08:27 AM

We will try, but we don't want to make it as expensive as the sony one.

Lbooker · 11-25-2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeng

The 13.3 model will definitely be cheaper than SONY reader. It uses the same flexible screen of SONY reader. The processor is iMX 6 and the OS is android 4.0 or above. We may use IR touch in 13.3 model to get best contrast, but not finally decided yet. The screen resolution is 1600x1200. With android, you should be able to use it as second monitor.

Great ! I will buy one !

mSSM · 11-25-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeng

We will try, but we don't want to make it as expensive as the sony one.

Great news! This is very exciting.

And big (!) kudos to Onyx now directly talking to the community, however small it is. This is the kind of stuff that makes me much rather buy another Onyx ebook reader over any other company's (and we have two M92

).

lepau · 11-25-2013, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeng

Not really, both of us can benefit from Android. For developers, it's easy to develop, debug and deploy applications.

so the problems is that its hard to find competent Linux developers, but easy to find Android coders...

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeng

For end users, they can install lot of applications.

aren't android devolpers running into the same problems with the eink Display that developers for the M92 have with QWS?

zeng · 11-26-2013, 03:37 AM

It's easy to develop apps for Android, because there are lot of documents, demo samples and forums. It's harder to get Qt running on eink device.

For Android developer, the eink display controller could be ignored. We introduced the smart way to refresh screen. So any android app can run on Onyx Android device without any effort. The screen just works. Of course, if you want to get the best user experience, you need to use Onyx Android SDK to refresh screen in best way. But even without that, the app still works correctly. For linux, it's quite different, by default, there is no display, so developer has to add additional code to refresh screen. For existing Qt linux applications, it's too hard to get them work on linux eink device.

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11-22-2013, 11:36 AM	#32
iampiti Connoisseur Posts: 69 Karma: 57510 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Onyx M92	Zeng, thanks for all the useful information. One more question, what about the M96? Sounds like it'll be very similar to the M95 but with Android 4.0. Thanks! On another topic: What's the use of Bluetooth on an e-reader? To connect bluetooth headphones?

11-23-2013, 03:36 AM	#36
Jmirko Recovered collector Posts: 398 Karma: 1555507 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vienna, Austria Device: see signature	I, for one, am really looking forward to Android on the M92. I was about to put it on ebay because the software doesn't support my note-taking workflow. With Androud, I should be able to install any number of scribble apps, which means my M92 will get a new life. That said, the 13-inch device will be the real killer for office use! If the price is sensible, I will definitely get one.

11-23-2013, 06:01 PM	#37
chexmix Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 1000010 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arlington, MA USA Device: Kindle 1, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014), Onyx Boox M96	I wish -- I really do -- that I felt I could look forward to future Boox products. But I cannot. Even if I get my M92 fully functional again, getting it partially functional has been a protracted nightmare. ... which is too bad, because I'd really like to have a good large-format e-reader. That's why I bought this thing in the first place.

11-24-2013, 02:40 AM	#38
rogerpiano Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 12 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Italy Device: Sony PRS 650, Onyx Boox M92, Onyx Boox Max2	To the list of professionals who could use a reader with large display, I would add the musicians. I am one of them and my M92 is doing its job very well, although for A4 size it would take a slightly larger display (I would prefer a 12" as a good compromise between portability and reading) @ Zeng: could you tell us if and when it will be available Android OS for M92? @ Seaniko7: plan to release updates to your OS Obuntu? Thank you!

11-24-2013, 08:25 PM	#39
Dan23 Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 600000 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Scribe, Paperwhite 6.8"	Please make the 13.3 as light as the sony one. Thanks.

11-25-2013, 08:27 AM	#41
zeng Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 16337 Join Date: May 2007	We will try, but we don't want to make it as expensive as the sony one.

11-26-2013, 03:37 AM	#45
zeng Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 16337 Join Date: May 2007	It's easy to develop apps for Android, because there are lot of documents, demo samples and forums. It's harder to get Qt running on eink device. For Android developer, the eink display controller could be ignored. We introduced the smart way to refresh screen. So any android app can run on Onyx Android device without any effort. The screen just works. Of course, if you want to get the best user experience, you need to use Onyx Android SDK to refresh screen in best way. But even without that, the app still works correctly. For linux, it's quite different, by default, there is no display, so developer has to add additional code to refresh screen. For existing Qt linux applications, it's too hard to get them work on linux eink device.

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