Firmware Update Kindle firmware update 5.13.7

[Barty]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Of course you can. And I'm going to. No way will I want this update on my Oasis.

Is the Kindle smart enough to download the update incrementally, ie can it resumes interrupted download? If not, it can't update if you only connect long enough to sync your books

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Barty

Is the Kindle smart enough to download the update incrementally, ie can it resumes interrupted download? If not, it can't update if you only connect long enough to sync your books

Kindles have been capable of resuming interrupted firmware downloads for a very long time. That was the basis for the former firmware update blocking directory which now gets deleted by amazon. The 7" Oases are very fast and can download a firmware update very quickly.

[Paperbackstash]

Okay, applied the manual update to Oasis.

I don't HATE it, but I do prefer previous toolbar as being simple and easily accessed without swiping down. I will get used to the new design but did like the toolbar before.

I am not seeing a reason to have the book at the bottom all the time since the last opened book is always the first large one showed on the library home page anyway, so it seemed kind of redundant in general. It is helpful, I guess, when browsing library, but again that is easy to do just by going to page 1 on library.

I don't have less books in my library like some are reporting. I still have six and not five.

Only thing weird is my auto brightness kept going up and down a lot when I was trying to look, so I turned it off for now.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by Paperbackstash

Okay, applied the manual update to Oasis.

I don't HATE it, but I do prefer previous toolbar as being simple and easily accessed without swiping down. I will get used to the new design but did like the toolbar before.

I am not seeing a reason to have the book at the bottom all the time since the last opened book is always the first large one showed on the library home page anyway, so it seemed kind of redundant in general. It is helpful, I guess, when browsing library, but again that is easy to do just by going to page 1 on library.

I don't have less books in my library like some are reporting. I still have six and not five.

Only thing weird is my auto brightness kept going up and down a lot when I was trying to look, so I turned it off for now.

Going to page one will take two taps now (Home and then Your Library), so it is not as easy as it was (the toolbar Home button would do that if the setting was configured to do that). Maybe it is not necessary to get back to reading the most recent book with one tap, but I like it (the Kindle apps have had this design for awhile).

On Paperwhite without Special Offers, there are 5 books shown per page in List View and 6 in Grid View. Oasis has a slightly larger screen so it might have another row in List view. I’m still curious about what it looks like with SO Kindles. I guess I should be able to turn them on and off at will?

[realthk]

Originally Posted by Paperbackstash

I don't have less books in my library like some are reporting. I still have six and not five

That must be the cover view. In the list view, there are only 5 items now by default, and only 4 (!) if you try the "display setting: large" (which does not enlarge the tiny system font, that remains barely readable)
On the first page of this topic, I've inserted screenshots of how bad is this on the Oasis, with huge unused white spaces everywhere.

Before this awful fw, there was 8 items in the list if I remember right (at least that is so on the smaller screen of my older Paperwhite, and it is not crowded at all)

[mnju]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I've seen photos and descriptions in this very thread. That's enough information to base my decision on. I would hate the new UI.

And you can't TRY an update with a Kindle. Once you update, you're stuck with it. You cannot downgrade, like you can with a Kobo.

Luckily I still have a Kobo Aura that I used only once as I liked my Kindle better. Now that Amazon f*cked up my ereader it's time to ditch the Kindle. The only thing I'm going to miss is longer battery time.

[Shark69]

Originally Posted by jhowell

Yes, I would like to see an example.I have been busy with other thing but now I am interested in seeing what has changed with the new firmware.

I'm sending you a personal message.

[Abish4i]

Originally Posted by fardeenah

i lost the book cover support for sideloaded books

I have nodrm on my device which shows covers for all of them.

[Paperbackstash]

Originally Posted by realthk

That must be the cover view. In the list view, there are only 5 items now by default, and only 4 (!) if you try the "display setting: large" (which does not enlarge the tiny system font, that remains barely readable)
On the first page of this topic, I've inserted screenshots of how bad is this on the Oasis, with huge unused white spaces everywhere.

Before this awful fw, there was 8 items in the list if I remember right (at least that is so on the smaller screen of my older Paperwhite, and it is not crowded at all)

Ah okay assumed it shortened the cover view.
And yes it is odd looking on homepage now to me. I definitely preferred old toolbar design for the top.

[binaryhermit]

Originally Posted by Paperbackstash

Ah, gotcha.

And yes they do put a lot of work into the app. That may be more commonly used than e-ink devices themselves.

Do the (not Kindle) Fire tablets more or less use the app interface? I have a (7th gen?) Fire 7 that I'd check on, except it's unusably laggy

[Badcatalex]

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Do the (not Kindle) Fire tablets more or less use the app interface? I have a (7th gen?) Fire 7 that I'd check on, except it's unusably laggy

Newer ones do.

[Paperbackstash]

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Do the (not Kindle) Fire tablets more or less use the app interface? I have a (7th gen?) Fire 7 that I'd check on, except it's unusably laggy

They do, although to me it looks a bit different than the mobile version. I don't use the apps much on fire or phone, don't think I even have installed on my phone at this point. It's sluggish on the fire though.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Do the (not Kindle) Fire tablets more or less use the app interface? I have a (7th gen?) Fire 7 that I'd check on, except it's unusably laggy

I believe 7th gen have the latest Kindle app and FireOS (I have 7th gen Fire 8HD but it is Deregistered as of a couple of months ago). It runs the same version as the latest Android app. The only difference is that the Fire app has TTS.

Somewhere between 4th gen Fire and 7th Fire, the Kindle app doesn’t get updated any more and lacks Series grouping. Things like Alexa still get updates, and FireOS may still get security and bug fixes (but none since at least March).

But the iOS and Android apps have in addition to Home and Library, there are Discover/Store and More screens (where Settings are) that you select at the bottom. At the top is a Notifications button (be glad these are not on Kindle) and search bar, where Store and More/settings buttons are.

The Kindle quick settings at the top are equivalent of iOS Control Panel or Android settings/notification panel that appear when you swipe from top (or on TouchID iPhones, swipe up from bottom for some reason I don’t understand).

But yes, there is a lot of similarity. They could move Store and Settings menu to the bottom on Kindle for even more similarity.

The one thing I wish they would do is to let you choose tap zones in reading mode that are the same as the apps (page left|Options|Page right). I keep tapping the middle of the screen to bring up options and it turns the page. That’s always been the biggest muscle memory issue when moving back and forth, and ‘easy reach’ is only easy reach if you hold in left hand, and never really made sense to me. Why not at least allow it to be reversed?

Hey, and it is now just Web Browser instead of Experimental Web Browser! AFAICT it is just a label change but I have not tried any of the things that did not work any more like signing in to DropBox, OneDrive etc. Wonder if you can access Kindle Vella with it (not that I can find anything in there that interests me).

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

Kindles have been capable of resuming interrupted firmware downloads for a very long time. That was the basis for the former firmware update blocking directory which now gets deleted by amazon. The 7" Oases are very fast and can download a firmware update very quickly.

Can you delete the update if it does get partially downloaded? I would like to use my Voyage to download books directly, but I don't want this newest firmware (should it ever become available for the Voyage). My 7th generation Paperwhite is already held back to 5.9.7. (I had forgotten I'd done that.)

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by rcentros

Can you delete the update if it does get partially downloaded? I would like to use my Voyage to download books directly, but I don't want this newest firmware (should it ever become available for the Voyage). My 7th generation Paperwhite is already held back to 5.9.7. (I had forgotten I'd done that.)

Yes, but if the firmware prioritizes updates over book downloads, you are screwed.

What firmware version is your Voyage, and is it jailbroken?