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09-20-2018, 11:19 PM   #76
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 Originally Posted by rcentros Oh, I almost forgot the smiley.
Don't worry, even with the smiley someone is likely to get upset . Glad to see you can take a ribbing.

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09-21-2018, 05:49 AM   #77
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 Originally Posted by DuckieTigger That means Katsunami calculated correctly. He just used "pixel" as a length unit of 1/216th inch. In this case whether he did it on purpose (without saying) or by accident yields the same results. Imagine non square pixels, for example.
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 Originally Posted by DuckieTigger That means Katsunami calculated correctly. He just used "pixel" as a length unit of 1/216th inch. In this case whether he did it on purpose (without saying) or by accident yields the same results. Imagine non square pixels, for example.
I don't assume. That 216 px/inch are calculated.

1920 x 1200 is a given spec by the manufacturer -> sqrt((1920 x 1920) + (1200 * 1200)) -> 2264 pixels for the diagonal. (Pythagoras.)

10.5 inch for the diagonal is a given spec by the manufacturer.

2264 px / 10.5 inch = 215.6 px/inch.

And yes, I calculated the 216 px/inch to be able to get the width/height of the display area in inches. Then I calculated the diagonal when taking half the width but keeping the height (as it is with two pages in landscape).

This wouldn't work well with non-square pixels. It can be done, but some adjustment factor is needed because one pixel in width, will not be the same as one pixel in height. I don't take those into account, because for all intents and purposes, non-square pixels aren't used in normal every day devices any more. (As far as I know.)

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09-21-2018, 09:32 AM   #78
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 Originally Posted by AnotherCat Perhaps not as irritating as all the posts expounding the wonders and advantages of E Ink over everything else that appear in these forums could be. Tablets and phones are hardly ever mentioned in these forums, in comparison, and in the main when they do they refer to objective attributes (such as the sizes I have just been providing) rather than subjective ones. So perhaps, you are just being a little overly sensitive about the matter.
Where are you seeing this attitude on the part of e-ink users? I am one of several people who posted about why I personally prefer e-ink, but I don't recall myself or any other e-ink users posting anything negative about those who prefer LCD devices.

I have, however, seen posts in this thread and other past threads by people who insinuate that those who don't like to read on LCD haven't been bright enough to adjust the brightness setting.

09-21-2018, 02:30 PM   #79
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 Originally Posted by 4691mls Where are you seeing this attitude on the part of e-ink users? I am one of several people who posted about why I personally prefer e-ink, but I don't recall myself or any other e-ink users posting anything negative about those who prefer LCD devices. I have, however, seen posts in this thread and other past threads by people who insinuate that those who don't like to read on LCD haven't been bright enough to adjust the brightness setting.
Yep. "E Ink fanboys" always have "subjective" reasons for preferring eInk Readers, whereas tablet users are "objective" and "scientific" in their assessments. Personally I don't care what device anyone else uses for reading. I know that I prefer eInk devices and I know why.

But what really riled me in this thread was the "E Ink fanboy" reference. The insinuation, of course, is that those who prefer eInk Readers do so out of "blind loyalty" or stubbornness, or are Luddites ... or whatever — and that our "claims" as to why we prefer eInk are just "made up" to cover up our innate fanboy-ism. I'm over it now ... I think.

09-21-2018, 04:06 PM   #80
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 Originally Posted by rcentros Yep. "E Ink fanboys" always have "subjective" reasons for preferring eInk Readers, whereas tablet users are "objective" and "scientific" in their assessments. Personally I don't care what device anyone else uses for reading. I know that I prefer eInk devices and I know why. But what really riled me in this thread was the "E Ink fanboy" reference. The insinuation, of course, is that those who prefer eInk Readers do so out of "blind loyalty" or stubbornness, or are Luddites ... or whatever — and that our "claims" as to why we prefer eInk are just "made up" to cover up our innate fanboy-ism. I'm over it now ... I think.
Yep. I use e-ink because it works better for me. I figure everyone else can use whatever device works for them. There's nothing wrong with any of us saying why we like our device and why we don't like reading on another kind, as long as we don't imply that other people are somehow stupid or inadequate because of their choice of device.

 Yesterday, 04:45 PM #81 Katsunami Grand Sorcerer     Posts: 5,954 Karma: 32193615 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1 Phone or not, but I just notice I'm reading more, and, for some reason, I feel like I *want to read*, something which I haven't had for quite a long time. Quite often, I just couldn't be bothered with the e-reader, because it ended up in a place where I wasn't because I forgot to, or didn't bring it with me. (Like, forgetting it at home on my desk, or not bringing it to lunch when I was early or late and the only one lunching at work). So I lost some reading time here, some there, in the end didn't even bother... but I *ALWAYS* have my phone in my pocket, and thus when given half a chance when I'm alone, I'll read. And with regards to paper books... when I see my girlfriend jack-assing around with A5-sized or larger books of 500-1000 pages thick, trying to put them into a bag that's always too small and playing Tetris with the contents to get the m***r to fit in there, I get all nervous and antsy. Like... There are better ways to carry letters with you, nowadays. Last edited by Katsunami; Yesterday at 04:47 PM.
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 Originally Posted by Katsunami And with regards to paper books... when I see my girlfriend jack-assing around with A5-sized or larger books of 500-1000 pages thick, trying to put them into a bag that's always too small and playing Tetris with the contents to get the m***r to fit in there, I get all nervous and antsy. Like... There are better ways to carry letters with you, nowadays.
Why not give your e-ink readers to her, then? Or is she dead set on paper?

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