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Originally I was comparing "small glass screen" to "large glass screen". It seems to have turned into a discussion about "glass screen" versus "plastic screen", which is a separate debate. If we're discussing plastic versus glass, I've said that plastic definitely has some advantages. However, I'm not really sure I agree that breakage is a major concern under normal usage conditions. For me, there would likely be other factors in determining which device I buy that have a much higher priority than the substrate material. Again, I'm not picking on Robertb specifically, he just happens to be a convenient example in this thread, but many manufacturers are saying that they are building a plastic large screen device because glass is too fragile in the larger screen size. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with the screen size. That's all I'm saying. |
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I've seen zero (that I remember) reports of broken DR screens. Doesn't matter what kind of ratio you want to convert that into. 0/X is not going to be higher than Y/X, no matter what terms you use for X.
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First, in statistics, you cannot get reliable estimates from really small sample. The sampling error will be enormous. Second, not all 1000DS users will post their story in mobileread. It is simply not representative. The fact that you have not seen broken screen of 1000DS so far in mobileread 1) does not mean that there will be no broken screen in the future and/or you are ignoring that 2) there are users outside of Mobileread.
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06-18-2009, 03:21 PM | #109 |
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I never said it was a statistically accurate sample, but it is the only data I have. Based on following both mobileread and iRex's own forum, however, the ratio of reports certainly gives the impression that the iLiads are more prone to breakage than the DRs. If you have more accurate statistical data comparing the two devices, by all means please post it.
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But the turning point seems to be the chassis, which looks a lot more sturdy in DR1000 compared to iliad. It prolly has nothing to do with the screen. |
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06-18-2009, 03:32 PM | #111 |
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Screen breakage seems to have a lot more to do with chassis design than it does with screen size.
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06-18-2009, 03:40 PM | #112 | |
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Ah, at least, we agree on something.
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Second, your impression does not qualify as statistical data. It is you who are claiming that both are equally strong and you are supposed to provide the proof for your claim not me. I am simply pointing out that your logic (or data) behind your claim is not sustainable. You cannot derive your conclusion that 1000DS is as sturdy as iliad from reported breakage (or the lack of) in two forums. To test properly, 1) you need ratio instead of count 2) you need representative sample 3) both should be test in same usage conditions. Please refer to post 103 and 104. Last edited by soilwork; 06-18-2009 at 03:45 PM. |
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See, now we understand each other.
Abe, the great reconciliator, at your service. Edit: Or not...:sigh: And here we go again. Last edited by Abelturd; 06-18-2009 at 03:50 PM. |
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I know it doesn't. I never said it did.
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(2) Let me summarize my point here. I will use the following abbreviation for simplicity. <Screen> BGS: big screen e-ink with glass substracte SGS: small screen e-ink with glass substracte BPS: big screen e-ink with plastic substrate <Casing> SC: sturdier casing WC: weaker casing 1. If you claim that 1000DS (BGS+SC) can be as strong as Iliad (SGS+WC), BGS + SC == SGC + WC it is certainly possible since it has better casing. However, it does not prove that the bigger screen (BGS) is inherently as strong as smaller screen (SGS). (Inherent problem with larger glass screen, as you mentioned in post #82) BGS != SGS 2. In addition, when you are comparing 1000DS (BGS+SC) with Iliad (SGS+WC) and claim that 100DS seems to be as strong as iliad based on unrepresentative sample and small sample. It think your logic is faulty since it has too many problems. (Your post #82) 3. I responded your post #82 since your are raising the point of durability of 1000DS (BGS + SC) when Robertb mentioned plastic screen (BPS). You brought up the point that BGS + SC is good enough for every day usage and that I can agree. However, if you imply that plastic screen (BPS) is not useful, I disagree. You can use the same sturdy casing with both glass (BGS) and plastic (BPS) and then the plastic one will have better durability. BPS + SC > BGS + SC (3) BTW, I am sorry if I sound too aggressive. I tend not to include humor in discussion (or cannot since English is not my mother tougue). I know some people in this forum can present the idea without sounding aggressive or dry (for example, RickyMaveety) but I am afraid that it will not come to me anytime soon, if ever. |
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Guys, I bet you're both lawyers.
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