11-05-2018, 11:02 AM | #31 |
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Actually , after more reading and sorting through the the middle. Os 5 had elements of both lolipop and marshmallow, .e. 5 and 6. Os 6 is sort of based on nougat, I?e? Android 7 despite being labelled as os6.
Amazon have pushed 6.3 as software update tom2014 through 2017 models. The 2018 model should just be tweaked for Alexa, with a software update promised to bring that to older models. Confusing as that is, my main points were correct. You have to find Google apps that are compatible, and you have to install in the right order. I always do account manager first. Then reboot. And the later link that I posted says to use a version 5 account manager for os 6 as later versions do not work. As the OP found, But that is contradicted by the xda article. So we are all the way back to: If you want Google on fire tablet you have to be prepared to read various contradictory advices, or watch contradictory you tube videos, then boldy go for it. Back out, try again.... There will never be a magic pill perfect for dummies how to guide. I also read the stuff about the SD card option whereby it mounts as internal storage, but that should present as a user choice. That really is it from me. There is nothing more I can say to simplify things. Do your own research and YMMV. My tablets are working except I never did get Gmail to work. I used Amazon's email app instead. I gave up with fire TV, and with old version OS4 or older Kindle fire ablets.they would have to be rooted. OS5, 6 should be doable, it's anyone's guess whether it will stay like that for future fire tablets. Arguably it is better to buy android and work on workarounds for streaming Amazon video in hd on those. I have one for that. PM if interested. With that sorted. My Lenovo tablet does everything that my Amazon fire tablet can do, and a few things it can't. The main attraction of fire tablets is the price. But you get what you pay for.... Last edited by stumped; 11-05-2018 at 11:08 AM. |
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It all worked perfectly, 4 files installed, took no longer than 10 minutes or so. The Fire is now worlds better, much more useful. No ill effects of any kind so far. Glad I did it. I only wish there were some easy and simply way to block and unblock any more Amazon firmware updates, at my option. I fear someday Amazon might screw with all my google niceness in a future firmware update. |
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11-06-2018, 01:55 PM | #33 |
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Amazon can , at any time. Block Google store. And services. Just because it has not happened yet does not mean it will never happen...
They already blocked YouTube on fire TVs, and almost a year later the actual you tube app remains blocked, though there are workarounds. So arguably it is better to buy an android tablet then add Amazon app store, Kindle app etc, rather than assume you will always be able to use Google store on fire tablets. As for waiting for the ideal video or guide..? I looked at a you tube one for the 8th gen fire and under the video there were several comments saying tried this, didn't work.... So either some people are incapable of following instructions or there are more factors at play .same with web guides, you see postitive comments mixed in with didn't work, app incompatible... . An commentators insist that their devices are identical to the one the guide is written for... Go figure. Amazon have promised/threatened to push an update soon for all pre 2018 models, to help with their Alexa features rollout. I doubt you can block or decline it Last edited by stumped; 11-06-2018 at 02:00 PM. |
11-06-2018, 02:22 PM | #34 |
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Update, according to this article, a block is already in 0lace that will affect the 2018 fire, though it is Google who are doing the blocking.
If the article is true, then the OP is totally out of luck.. https://android.gadgethacks.com/news...re-os-0183744/ |
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Does your Google account have Two Factor Authentication? Someone on xda had a problem because of this and they created a new Google account and it worked fine following the directions in a link in this thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8...-hd-8-t3855811 You can also just side load the apks for whatever apps you want. Some paid apps including Moon+ Reader Pro don't check with the Play Store. |
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The more I play around with this Fire the more I like it. Can read all my books with the Kindle app. Calibre and CC connect both by wireless and USB and load the books into the Kindle folder on the SD card, or I can side load the books from my computer into the SD card. I do miss Chrome and a few others apps not available from Amazon. If I do try again and have success I'll post it here. Last edited by The Old Man; 11-07-2018 at 07:17 AM. Reason: Correction |
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11-07-2018, 07:58 AM | #37 |
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you may be able to get the BRAVE browser, which is basically chrome with some built in ad-blocking. very fast, efficient browser
the advantage of actual play store chrome is that it can sync bookmarks, history etc. across devices, brave does not have that, not yet anyway. it is a free app so you should have little trouble finding a side-loadable installer e.g. from here https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6...e-android.html do keep us posted on install attempts, every detailed here is what i did that worked description helps others |
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Update: Just checked my Fire, I see Amazon is currently threatening me with "2 system updates ready to install." And if I don't do it myself manually, it's going to do it anyway "next time the device is not being used." I'll report back if these updates seem to have done anything untoward to my GooglePlay...[grumble] |
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updates: yes and it you don't do them, then some amazon things may stop working- that is definitely the case with fire TV and amazon video. you are effectively forced to have latest versions for stuff to stream
you will probably be ok if is a minor update e.g. 5.6.2.0 to 5.6.3.0. it's when we see a big jump to 6.x.x.x that you should worry. most updates happen while a device is on overnight charge ( for me anyway) |
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They could have been a component updates not firmware. It uses the same venue to updates system components like Kindle app and Audible....etc
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Ah, okay, that's what it was. I've got app updates on manual just to watch what it's up to; I figured everything else from Amazon was "firmware" - I learn something new every day. Thanks!
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I just got a firmware update. 5.6.4 Google Play still works fine. Don't ask me what's new, it never tells me.
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Some on xda are saying they see an improvement in performance. So far I haven't experienced any ill effects. Last edited by k9reeder; 11-10-2018 at 05:54 AM. Reason: typo |
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