Reference Alcoholics Anonymous: Big Book, v.1, 29 October 2008.

Patricia · 10-28-2008, 09:14 PM

This is the key text of Alcoholics Anonymous, and was a seminal work in the development of 12-step programmes to treat addictions.

Copyright etc.
The current edition of this book is the fourth one. It is under copyright. You may read it online at http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/ . It is in a mix of html and protected PDF. However, the first two editions did not have their copyright renewed in the U.S. I cite evidence below. The eleven core chapters are the same, as far as I can see. However, the personal stories were updated with new stories in later editions, as were the appendices. There is no ebook available of the third or fourth edition; not even for ready money. There are people trying to sell this title as an ebook, but all versions emanate from the source that I have used. Given that I have spent some time cleaning up formatting and OCR errors, I believe mine is actually better. I made it because a forum member was interested in having a copy.

Both these sites argue that the U.S copyright of the first edition was not renewed:
See:
http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/
and
http://alcoholism.about.com/library/weekly/aa990825.htm
The following site makes it clear that the U.S. copyright has expired for both the first and the second edition: http://anonpress.org/faq/files/read.asp?fID=239
And this hostile site argues that the original copyright was invalid and that neither the first nor second editions had their copyright renewed. http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-bigbook.html

UncleDuke · 10-29-2008, 07:04 PM

my 3rd wife had one once, it should be a great help to those that need and want it

what i need is a 12 step program to recover from 12 step programs

doreenjoy · 03-26-2009, 04:22 AM

Thank you, Patricia!

Patricia · 03-26-2009, 06:42 AM

My pleasure, doreenjoy.

puremagic · 07-19-2009, 05:30 AM

Patricia

Where can I get a copy of the big book for my Sony Pr505. I have searched all over for a ebook version of this.

Regards

Pure.

Patricia · 07-19-2009, 05:32 AM

Just click on the readme.html attachment on the first post in this thread, pure. It will take you to the book, which is hosted on our US server, for copyright reasons.

puremagic · 07-19-2009, 05:36 AM

Thank you so so much. Sorry if the initial post had the instructions.

Many Many Thanks

Pure x

Patricia · 07-19-2009, 05:38 AM

My pleasure, Pure.

puremagic · 12-04-2012, 05:17 PM

Sorry I have a kindle now and no calibre to convert. Can anyone convert this please?

10-28-2008, 09:14 PM	#1
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Alcoholics Anonymous: Big Book, v.1, 29 October 2008. This is the key text of Alcoholics Anonymous, and was a seminal work in the development of 12-step programmes to treat addictions. Copyright etc. The current edition of this book is the fourth one. It is under copyright. You may read it online at http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/ . It is in a mix of html and protected PDF. However, the first two editions did not have their copyright renewed in the U.S. I cite evidence below. The eleven core chapters are the same, as far as I can see. However, the personal stories were updated with new stories in later editions, as were the appendices. There is no ebook available of the third or fourth edition; not even for ready money. There are people trying to sell this title as an ebook, but all versions emanate from the source that I have used. Given that I have spent some time cleaning up formatting and OCR errors, I believe mine is actually better. I made it because a forum member was interested in having a copy. Both these sites argue that the U.S copyright of the first edition was not renewed: See: http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/ and http://alcoholism.about.com/library/weekly/aa990825.htm The following site makes it clear that the U.S. copyright has expired for both the first and the second edition: http://anonpress.org/faq/files/read.asp?fID=239 And this hostile site argues that the original copyright was invalid and that neither the first nor second editions had their copyright renewed. http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-bigbook.html

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UncleDuke books & doughnuts Posts: 882 Karma: 37857 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Device: sony reader, kindle2	my 3rd wife had one once, it should be a great help to those that need and want it what i need is a 12 step program to recover from 12 step programs

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Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	My pleasure, doreenjoy.

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puremagic Member Posts: 22 Karma: 2125214 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505	Patricia Where can I get a copy of the big book for my Sony Pr505. I have searched all over for a ebook version of this. Regards Pure.

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Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Just click on the readme.html attachment on the first post in this thread, pure. It will take you to the book, which is hosted on our US server, for copyright reasons.

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puremagic Member Posts: 22 Karma: 2125214 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505	Thank you so so much. Sorry if the initial post had the instructions. Many Many Thanks Pure x

07-19-2009, 05:38 AM	#8
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	My pleasure, Pure.

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puremagic Member Posts: 22 Karma: 2125214 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505	Sorry I have a kindle now and no calibre to convert. Can anyone convert this please?

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