FW 5.3.x - 5.7.x Fonts Hack - Page 28

NiLuJe · 07-26-2016, 07:42 AM

@rpgmaker:

It's maths, so, err, better ask someone else than me ;D. But the name is accurate, it's a matrix transformation.

As was said, double-check the actual family name of Helvetica (in the Fonts Override KUAL menu, for instance), and, yeah, you *definitely* need to put that in conf.d, conf.avail is *NOT* parsed at all, it's just a storage directory

.

beic · 07-28-2016, 05:34 AM

Hi guys, I can't seem to override any fonts on my KOA

Just want to make sure I'm following the instructions properly

I drop my font file (BunchloArsa.ttf) into linkfonts/fonts folder
Run Fonts -> Fonts Hack Behaviour > Update fontconfig cache
Once the framework has restarted, I choose Fonts -> Overrides -> Condensed -> Custom -> Bunchló Ársa
Run the Fonts > Restart the framework
After restart, I open a book and select Caecilia Condensed, but the font doesn't change to my custom one, it's still Caecilia Condensed

Any ideas? Have I missed a step somewhere?

NiLuJe · 07-28-2016, 06:17 AM

@beic: Book might be formatted to enforce a font family (usually, serif). Try with another book.

NullNix · 07-28-2016, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@beic: Book might be formatted to enforce a font family (usually, serif). Try with another book.

And if you bought the book from Amazon, report a content error (which they will then proceed to completely ignore), since enforcing a font family throughout an entire book is in violation of their content "guidelines". (And this is a guideline they actually *do* enforce now and again, if enough people complain.)

beic · 07-28-2016, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@beic: Book might be formatted to enforce a font family (usually, serif). Try with another book.

It allows me to select all the other fonts though. I've tried a few other books and it's the same issue. I tried some books from the Kindle Store, one I converted in Calibre, some web articles using Send to Kindle, no dice.

Not sure if this is significant, but I went back into Fonts -> Overrides -> Condensed -> ** Show Current ** and it says down the bottom "F condensed => condensed", so does that mean it didn't save my custom font setting after the reboot?

NiLuJe · 07-28-2016, 12:59 PM

@beic: Yuuup, given the family name of your font, I sense unicode wonkyness.

Try to edit that font to lower-asciize that family name to avoid weird diacritical marks, maybe that'll jog things up.

knc1 · 07-28-2016, 03:00 PM

Are spaces in font names allowed?

NiLuJe · 07-28-2016, 06:53 PM

In the family name, for FC, yep, that's okay.

I have no idea how it deals with high-ascii stuff in this context, though, hence my concerns...
Given what's involved (which is, well, printing letters on screen, after all

), I'm fairly sure FC itself deals perfectly sanely with it, I'm more concerned with how that translates on the Kindle, and in particular how I'm updating the config shards in the KUAL extension...

beic · 07-29-2016, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@beic: Yuuup, given the family name of your font, I sense unicode wonkyness.

Try to edit that font to lower-asciize that family name to avoid weird diacritical marks, maybe that'll jog things up.

Well, you were right! When I opened the font in FontLab, there were garbled characters in the family name. Got rid of those, exported the font, and now it's working.

feelmaroon · 07-30-2016, 02:23 PM

You're all doing some amazing work with font development. Phenomenal. I haven't done anything other than install the font hack and have been reading through this entire field pretty diligently. Is there a way to simply add weight to the current fonts or a font that I can install with more weight than the stock fonts?

NiLuJe · 07-31-2016, 12:17 PM

@feelmaroon: IIRC, no, not without editing the font.

rpgmaker · 07-31-2016, 12:52 PM

By the way, which was the mono font Amazon used on fw 5.4.x? I think it's different than the one they use on 5.7.x and 5.8.x (KindleBlackboxC I think). I'm interested in using the old one because the new one doesn't deal well with increasing the size of the font. It doesn't seem to increase the space between the lines accordingly and everything ends up looking kind of "crammed" together.

NiLuJe · 07-31-2016, 12:57 PM

I don't recall if they changed the Mono font (not that it's used much, anyway). But they might have updated it significantly.

What's your issue, actually?

rpgmaker · 07-31-2016, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

What's your issue, actually?

The new mono font doesn't deal well with the increased size. It doesn't seem to increase the space between the lines accordingly and everything ends up looking like a letter soup. On technical books the mono font is used relatively often for some things. Is there a way to get the font out of the old fw? Or more generally, how can I extract the contents of those .bin files?

NiLuJe · 07-31-2016, 01:39 PM

@rpgmaker: How are you getting to the Mono font in the first place? It's barely used anywhere (txt file and pre blocks, IIRC).

07-28-2016, 05:34 AM	#407
beic Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2016 Location: España Device: Oasis 3G	Hi guys, I can't seem to override any fonts on my KOA Just want to make sure I'm following the instructions properly I drop my font file (BunchloArsa.ttf) into linkfonts/fonts folder Run Fonts -> Fonts Hack Behaviour > Update fontconfig cache Once the framework has restarted, I choose Fonts -> Overrides -> Condensed -> Custom -> Bunchló Ársa Run the Fonts > Restart the framework After restart, I open a book and select Caecilia Condensed, but the font doesn't change to my custom one, it's still Caecilia Condensed Any ideas? Have I missed a step somewhere?

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07-26-2016, 07:42 AM	#406
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@rpgmaker: It's maths, so, err, better ask someone else than me ;D. But the name is accurate, it's a matrix transformation. As was said, double-check the actual family name of Helvetica (in the Fonts Override KUAL menu, for instance), and, yeah, you definitely need to put that in conf.d, conf.avail is NOT parsed at all, it's just a storage directory .

07-28-2016, 06:17 AM	#408
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@beic: Book might be formatted to enforce a font family (usually, serif). Try with another book.

07-28-2016, 12:59 PM	#411
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@beic: Yuuup, given the family name of your font, I sense unicode wonkyness. Try to edit that font to lower-asciize that family name to avoid weird diacritical marks, maybe that'll jog things up.

07-28-2016, 03:00 PM	#412
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Are spaces in font names allowed?

07-28-2016, 06:53 PM	#413
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	In the family name, for FC, yep, that's okay. I have no idea how it deals with high-ascii stuff in this context, though, hence my concerns... Given what's involved (which is, well, printing letters on screen, after all ), I'm fairly sure FC itself deals perfectly sanely with it, I'm more concerned with how that translates on the Kindle, and in particular how I'm updating the config shards in the KUAL extension...

07-30-2016, 02:23 PM	#415
feelmaroon Connoisseur Posts: 89 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2012 Device: Sony PRS-350, Kindle 4, PW2, Voyage, Oasis, Kobo Aura One	You're all doing some amazing work with font development. Phenomenal. I haven't done anything other than install the font hack and have been reading through this entire field pretty diligently. Is there a way to simply add weight to the current fonts or a font that I can install with more weight than the stock fonts?

07-31-2016, 12:17 PM	#416
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@feelmaroon: IIRC, no, not without editing the font.

07-31-2016, 12:52 PM	#417
rpgmaker Connoisseur Posts: 85 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	By the way, which was the mono font Amazon used on fw 5.4.x? I think it's different than the one they use on 5.7.x and 5.8.x (KindleBlackboxC I think). I'm interested in using the old one because the new one doesn't deal well with increasing the size of the font. It doesn't seem to increase the space between the lines accordingly and everything ends up looking kind of "crammed" together.

07-31-2016, 12:57 PM	#418
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	I don't recall if they changed the Mono font (not that it's used much, anyway). But they might have updated it significantly. What's your issue, actually?

07-31-2016, 01:39 PM	#420
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@rpgmaker: How are you getting to the Mono font in the first place? It's barely used anywhere (txt file and pre blocks, IIRC).

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