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Old 05-23-2017, 10:55 AM   #61
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I dread to think of the time involved if I had to re-rip my music library. 50k tracks. I know hard drive space is cheap but between my music and my photos I soon fill an hard drive.

Space is still a big factor for me as I like to keep 3 separate copies of everything.
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Since I retain any original CDs, re-ripping to flac seems pointless. I'd still also need mp3 files to play my music.
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I'm in the same position as you. I'm sticking to MP3.
The point would be to protect your CD sources against damage, loss, or obsolescence.

Backing up your CDs to FLAC essentially immortalizes your CDs. Then you can still go on using your mp3s as is, or make a new copy from the FLAC in whatever format you choose, maybe for your future portable players, with no quality loss.

For the record, I don't do this either, my fairly low bitrate mp3s are adequate for my purposes, and I have no motivation to put any more work into it.
However, if I acquire new material going forward, I might choose something other than low bitrate mp3.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:08 AM   #63
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Since I retain any original CDs, re-ripping to flac seems pointless. I'd still also need mp3 files to play my music.
If you rip to FLAC with CUE sheets then you will never need to rip those discs again (barring loss of your master library storage). Once you have a FLAC master library you can transcode to anything you like with much greater ease and speed than re-ripping discs.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:05 PM   #64
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I have no idea what a CUE sheet even is.

My CDs generally get played once when I buy them, then are ripped to mp3, then go back in their jewel cases. I don't worry about the CD being damaged or deteriorating; it seems unlikely. Then I play the mp3s on my portable devices and/or burn mp3 CDs to play at home.
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I have no idea what a CUE sheet even is.

My CDs generally get played once when I buy them, then are ripped to mp3, then go back in their jewel cases. I don't worry about the CD being damaged or deteriorating; it seems unlikely. Then I play the mp3s on my portable devices and/or burn mp3 CDs to play at home.
Why would you burn an MP3 CD when you are causing a loss in audio quality and you have the original CD?
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Why would you burn an MP3 CD when you are causing a loss in audio quality and you have the original CD?
Maybe to create mix tapes?
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:30 PM   #67
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Why would you burn an MP3 CD when you are causing a loss in audio quality and you have the original CD?
So I can pop in a CD of 8 hours or so of music and listen all day. So I can put five CDs of a box set, say, on one CD. So I can group albums by one artist or composer onto one or more CDs. So I can put multiple versions of a Broadway show on one CD.

Also, of course, I don't have to worry about damaging the original CD.

I like to buy those 100-track digital albums of classical music that Amazon sells for a buck and I burn those to a couple of CDs as well so I have a physical copy.

With audiobooks, I burn an mp3 CD for a backup. Most audiobooks easily fit on a single CD.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:09 PM   #68
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No, you don't. You can't buy something that's free.

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Sure you can... because there are different ways of (legitimately) acquiring free content, and some are better than others.

On Amazon, for instance, if an ebook has a purchase link and is currently free, clicking that link is a purchase in every way that matters. It goes into my collection, and if the author updates it later (say, to fix typos), I can download that new version anytime I want. That remains true even if the book was only free for a day and became non-free later.

On Smashwords, use of a 100% discount coupon works the same way as above. However, if the book is simply free, you can download it right away, but there's no mechanism to permanently acquire it - in that respect, Smashwords agrees with your philosophy. Thus, if I get it while it's free, and it gets updated when it's not free, I have no access to the revised edition. Sucks to be me. OTOH, if I bought it at zero cost because I had a coupon code, I can get the update.

As a third example, there's a series of books in this year's Hugo packet that's free to Hugo voters, but only for the duration of the voting period. After that time passes, the DRM locks you out of the omnibus. (See also library ebooks.)

So, yeah - lots of types of free out there, and there are good reasons to go with the model where you buy the book for zero dollars. Backups matter.
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Maybe to create mix tapes?
For me it started when our cd player broke, so we used the CD drive on our computer and made "back up" copies, other cd's I got sick of re-buying after having damaged them.

(yet my $5 "the best of Air Supply" remained unharmed haha). I enjoy listening to the music but I don't have the finely honed sense of "sound" that my husband does. He fiddles with all kinds of speakers and making sure the mixers are right, and I don't notice much of a difference.

Nowadays I mostly listen to the Radio and youtube and stuff like that anyway, but still enjoy my collection on my computer, too. (and my sansa clip mp3 player)
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Doesn't the Sansa Clip play FLAC files?
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Doesn't the Sansa Clip play FLAC files?
Some Clip models do, others don't.
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AAC MUSIC's A BIT SMALLER YOU KNOW?
Yes. Also, when you type in all caps it takes up more space on my monitor, and now I'm all out and it's all your fault.
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Doesn't the Sansa Clip play FLAC files?
Not with the original stock firmware, IIRC. Maybe with more recent versions. Definitely with Rockbox.

Power consumption is terrible with FLAC files. I was getting less than half the charge life with FLAC files on my Clip Zips (with Rockbox) as I get with Vorbis or MP3 files. This isn't unique to the Clip line: I see similar battery performance on my Fiio X3 (stock) and my xDuoo (Rockbox).
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Doesn't the Sansa Clip play FLAC files?
Oh, sorry--my bad; I don't know what I was thinking. The Clip Zip and Clip Sport models definitely can play flac files, as can the AGPTek mp3 player I'm currently using. The newer Clip Jam from Sansa can't, though.
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Oh, sorry--my bad; I don't know what I was thinking. The Clip Zip and Clip Sport models definitely can play flac files, as can the AGPTek mp3 player I'm currently using. The newer Clip Jam from Sansa can't, though.
Honest confusion? There *are* five (last time I counted) different models of "Sansa Clip" devices, some of which have nothing in common with the rest besides the name.
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