09-22-2017, 06:41 PM | #46 | |
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Edit: you also can't sort the icons alphabetically. You have to do it manually. |
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09-22-2017, 08:00 PM | #47 | |
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Amazon's philosophy in all their products is to keep things simple for the average person and that's not a bad philosophy, although it's not the preferred way of the geeks among us. The problem is that Amazon's designers, and this is true nearly across their product lines, tend to make things more difficult and less intuitive while trying to simplify. I think they're just not very good designers. So you know where I'm coming from, I'm a long time very happy Amazon customer. I buy from them when I can and from others if I have to. They've made my life easier. So this isn't prejudice against Amazon. I'm pretty much an Amazon booster. I'm not a booster of Amazon's designers. I'm a retired programmer, long retired and out of date, I'm afraid, and interface design was never my specialty. But I have designed a LOT of interfaces and I do know something about it. I even took a few courses in it. As I said it was never my specialty and I don't consider myself an expert on the subject but I'm also not chopped liver. A simple example from my 7" Fire: my home screen has enough lines of icons even after putting all the icons I can into folders that there are 2 pages of icons. When I want to see the bottom page I can't simply scroll like you can on even the ungodly Ipad, I have to scroll all the way and then hold it a second or the page will bounce back. When I scrolled I made my intentions perfectly clear but the Fire doesn't believe me till I hold it there. On other tablets I give a little push and wallah! It scrolls the rest of the way for me as though it has inertia. I picked this as an example because it's so totally obvious after just a few minutes using the tablet and because it's such a very poor design choice. And there are many many others. FireOS is really a pain to use. That said, I have the 7" Fire and I use it and I'm glad I have it. It's the tablet that I keep going around the clock so it's always handy when I want it, ready to go, ready to frustrate at a moment's notice. I got it when they put them on sale for $30 and it was worth every penny of that. Barry |
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09-22-2017, 10:42 PM | #49 | |||
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I can't compare the new HD8 to the old one since I this is my first Fire tablet, but it is certainly MUCH faster than my old Nook. I mainly use it for reading books with the stock Kindle app and reading magazines with Zinio. I'd rather have the bigger 10" screen, but can't justify spending the money when my current tablet isn't even a year old. |
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09-23-2017, 12:38 AM | #50 | |
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and I add google play store and apps to my fire tablets - very easy - no root required. so I can use chrome in place of silk , & an ebay app that is not 3 years old.... I just with they would fix the issue of : you can have Alexa enabled, OR you can have parental controls on to block accidental i clock payments , BUT you can't have both. reading the blurb for this new tablet say this is still how it is Last edited by stumped; 09-23-2017 at 12:41 AM. |
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09-23-2017, 03:53 AM | #51 | |
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I might wait until John Lewis gets it as then I'll have a two year warranty instead of he one Amazon provides. I use to pay for extended warrantys but I'm beginning to think it's just extra cost when I can get a bit extra free. |
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09-23-2017, 04:06 AM | #52 |
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i am waiting for the UK black friday - they are £150 to pre - order here ( the usual uk rip off when compared to USA prices ) but I bet there will be a black friday sale price. of £20 - £30 off .
I think we will also see the new Echo look over here , before too long, as they keep discounting the original cylindrical Echo ( £99 today ) |
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I wonder if they will discount it on Black Friday, it is tempting to wait but I'm not sure. |
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09-23-2017, 05:14 AM | #54 |
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09-23-2017, 06:24 AM | #55 |
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I want to get mine from John Lewis for the extra years warranty so I might hang on and see if Amazon do discount it and JL price match. I've just sold my HD8 for £60 to a friend so that will help with the cost as I want the 64GB.
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09-23-2017, 09:12 AM | #56 | |
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Amazon's Black Friday sales have been in the range of one third off. I got the $50 Fire 7 for $33 in '15. I got last year's $90 8HD for $60. If this holds for '17, a 10" tablet with remarkably improved specs over the 2016 HD8, the new 10" could be $99. I'm excited! I've been pricing low end 10" tablets, and their prices have been a big leap up from low end 8" models. I am not a Black Friday shopper taking my life in my hands or waiting in lines, but you can easily get Amazon's sales, even at brick and mortar stores. I got 2 Fire 7s at Staples and the Fire HD8 at Best Buy with both stores matching Amazon's prices over several days with plenty of stock. Amazon had a somewhat smaller sale in the days before Christmas for the same tablets. With that in mind, I don't know why anyone would be in a rush to pre-order. Black Friday will be the perfect amount of time to have passed in order to read actual reviews, see video reviews on YouTube, and read of any problems in the inevitable discussion here on MR. And save quite a bit of money. |
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Right now I see in the file manager that almost 11GB of the available 12GB of internal memory are being used (the rest of the 16GB is used by the OS). But in settings > apps and games > manage all applications, the "Device Memory" bar graph in the "Running" tab shows 716MB of RAM free (about 2/3rds of the total). And eveything is running as fast as it ever did. |
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09-23-2017, 10:37 AM | #58 | |
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