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Old 10-12-2017, 09:47 AM   #16
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Audible will be available on the all-new Kindle Oasis via a free over-the-air update when the device ships—and it will be available via a free over-the-air update to Kindle (Gen 8) and the first Kindle Oasis in the coming months. If you’re new to Audible, sign up for a free trial and get two free audiobooks.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:28 AM   #17
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I guess maybe they'll update it before the 31st - but in that case why have this version at all? It's essentially the same as the previous version with updated specs - like resolution - and a section on the waterproofing.
Can't be done.
The devices will not update in the box (in "shipping mode") and the logistics of unboxing them, updating them, and reboxing them is hard to imagine.
These things are produced in hundreds of thousand unit batches.

Have you tried 5.8.11 in your current Kindle yet?
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:36 PM   #18
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Re the "Audible will come to existing Oasis's too" ( "it will be available via a free over-the-air update to ... the first Kindle Oasis in the coming months") Does the first Oasis have bluetooth? I don't see it in my settings. And there's no earplug jack. So how would the first Oasis use Audible?
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:13 PM   #19
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Re the "Audible will come to existing Oasis's too" ( "it will be available via a free over-the-air update to ... the first Kindle Oasis in the coming months") Does the first Oasis have bluetooth? I don't see it in my settings. And there's no earplug jack. So how would the first Oasis use Audible?
Most wifi chips have bluetooth capability. Maybe they are just turning it on.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:27 PM   #20
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Re the "Audible will come to existing Oasis's too" ( "it will be available via a free over-the-air update to ... the first Kindle Oasis in the coming months") Does the first Oasis have bluetooth? I don't see it in my settings. And there's no earplug jack. So how would the first Oasis use Audible?
It might.
Bluetooth is include on the SoC but other than the 8th. gen Kindle Basic, not used.
And the antenna could be just about any printed trace.
Since the Oasis has never been closely examined, it might have a BT antenna and no one has noticed it.

But if the antenna is there, then it is just a matter of enabling Bluetooth in the Kernel.

We don't have a lot of non-publish technical detail on the Oasis.
Because of the cost and the lack of any known serial port, few people have experimented with the internals.

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And where you posting about the 5.8.11 version? (we have the links posted in the dev sub-forum).
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:17 AM   #21
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Can't be done.
The devices will not update in the box (in "shipping mode") and the logistics of unboxing them, updating them, and reboxing them is hard to imagine.
These things are produced in hundreds of thousand unit batches.
I suppose so. I hadn't thought of that but in my defence 31st seems a long way off. Which it is if you're anxiously waiting for a new toy, less so if you're preparing to release it as a product.

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Have you tried 5.8.11 in your current Kindle yet?
Not yet. Why does it have an updated manual included?
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:42 AM   #22
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This thread is way off-topic. Time to move the off-topic talk to one of the other threads about the KO2.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:25 AM   #23
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They probably just liked the 7” size better. Maybe that’s how big they needed it to be to keep the same thiness but have the same battery life without a case. I’m sure Amazon at this point is a significant fraction of eInk screen sales and can probably dictate any screen size they want at any reasonable PPI.
My suspicion is that they did not want to increase the device size too much (with the page turning button side being already quite large) while still offering a noticeably larger screen and retaining the 4:3 aspect ratio, probably for easy of software adaptation and consistency across all devices.
Ideally, with the Oasis form factor, they would have gone for a longer but less wide display to retain device proportions and come closer to the actual “aspect ratio” of an actual book (like for example Sony did with the PRS 900 and 950).
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Ideally, with the Oasis form factor, they would have gone for a longer but less wide display to retain device proportions and come closer to the actual “aspect ratio” of an actual book (like for example Sony did with the PRS 900 and 950).
I didn't like the size of the 900/950. It should have been wider as well as taller. I never have liked these TPB that are taller and more narrow. They just feel odd to hold. and a Reader based on those is not going to be one I'll own.
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Ideally, with the Oasis form factor, they would have gone for a longer but less wide display to retain device proportions and come closer to the actual “aspect ratio” of an actual book.
They needed the width to leave room for the big fat mandatory margins.
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Amazon are currently tying in Audible with Sonos. The operational system of that may be tied into what the Oasis can do too.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:29 PM   #27
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I found the answer in the user manual (PDF).

1680x1264
Page 45:
"Display: 7" diagonal display, 1680 x 1264 pixels, 300 dpi resolution, 16-level gray scale."

I wanted to download the Kindle Oasis User's Guide to my Paperwhite but I couldn't find it.
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