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Old 05-04-2021, 07:28 AM   #166
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I'm in my 60s, and was diagnosed with short sight at the age of 10 when I couldn't see the blackboard in the classroom at my new school (primary classroom was wide and shallow, secondary was the other way round). I also have astigmatism. I can read on all types of screens, but prefer an e-ink screen for long periods; I find the bigger the screen (up to a point), the easier it is to immerse. (I also have arthritis in my hands, and find repetitive swiping aggravates it.)

For lighting, I prefer a strong ambient light. I can read in direct sunlight, but prefer not to - I was told by my optician in my 20s not to go out in strong sun unless I wore a hat and/or sunglasses as I was complaining about day-time headaches. Apparently, it was the glare of strong sunlight that was triggering them.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:01 PM   #167
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FWIW, I tend to agree with @ottisschwenk. Yes, I could try to use a single device for all purposes however I find having a laptop, iPad Pro and eInk ereader in my laptop bag plus an iPhone in my pocket is a much more flexible way to go. Do some of the device capabilities overlap? Yes. Would anyone want a toolbox with a single tool in it if they had any other choice? For me, the answer is a resounding NO!
What if it was a sonic screwdriver?

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Old 05-04-2021, 11:57 PM   #168
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Gimme a hammer and I can "fix" anything.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:31 AM   #169
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Over 50, moderate myopia and astigmatism. My close vision is good and I read without my glasses. I can read for short periods on my phone but long reading sessions result in eyestrain. I have the same problem if I spend too long doing anything on the phone, i.e. browsing stores, not just reading books. I don't have any eyestrain problems with e-ink.

Obviously there are plenty of people who can read on LCD with no problem. I'm glad people are reading whether it be paper books, LCD or whatever so authors will keep writing and publishers will keep publishing. I just hope Kobo, Kindle et al keep making e-ink readers for those of us who prefer them.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:49 AM   #170
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Some can read on LCD for long periods, some cannot. Based on personal experience, I suspect that people that can use LCD a lot can also tolerate / need a brightly illuminated display. A poll would enlighten this subject a bit. I'll have to think about what options to put on it.
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:35 PM   #171
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I don't know why this is asked over and over and over again. Dedicated ereader equals no glare, better for the eyes. Also if you don't want one simply do not buy one.
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Old 05-07-2021, 08:00 PM   #172
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Better for some eyes. That part always needs said over and over again too.
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Old 05-07-2021, 11:49 PM   #173
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Better for some eyes. That part always needs said over and over again too.
But my eyes are the only ones that matter to me. What the rest of you zombies read on doesn't bother my eyes.
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Old 05-08-2021, 07:56 AM   #174
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But my eyes are the only ones that matter to me. What the rest of you zombies read on doesn't bother my eyes.
Fine by me. I have no problem with preferences. Only attempts to make those preferences sound like blanket truisms: "eink is better for the eyes. If you don't want one, don't by one" sounded very much like an attempt at a blanket truism to me.

Present it in such away that doesn't sound like you're (rhetorical) touting eink as inherently, objectively, scientifically better for all eyeballs and no one will hear a peep from me.
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Old 05-08-2021, 12:19 PM   #175
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Fine by me. I have no problem with preferences. Only attempts to make those preferences sound like blanket truisms: "eink is better for the eyes. If you don't want one, don't by one" sounded very much like an attempt at a blanket truism to me.

Present it in such away that doesn't sound like you're (rhetorical) touting eink as inherently, objectively, scientifically better for all eyeballs and no one will hear a peep from me.
AMEN!!!! HLS needs to take a look at the poll that asked the question and now those of us who can read on anything has overtaken those who can't.

The only truism is that what works for EACH INDIVIDUAL is what is right for them and should NOT be applied to everyone else!

Read on whatever you like, and rejoice that everyone can find something that they can read on as well.
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Old 05-08-2021, 01:03 PM   #176
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I don't know why this is asked over and over and over again. Dedicated ereader equals no glare, better for the eyes. Also if you don't want one simply do not buy one.
WRONG. just set the brightness up. I have the eink set to slightly above the point where the background turns milky white; after that the glare starts. Readability on eink for contrast means a very bright screen so that there is a decent contrast between the background & the letters.

YOUR eyesight may be different. Yes, I do see the flashes of flourescent lights on occasion.

I think that a 10" screen is the better for reading regardless of the screen type if the combo of letters & background permits.
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WRONG. just set the brightness up.
ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY TURN THE BRIGHTNESS UP.

So for glare, we're supposed to turn brightness up, either until it goes to 100%, or until the glare goes away.

And for pain from being too bright, we're supposed to turn the brightness down, either until it reaches 0% or until the pain goes away.

And for pain from pulse-width modulation, we're supposed to turn the brightness up again.

And if we have trouble, we're supposed to rely on eye-care options which automatically adjust.

I for one find 0% far too bright on most monitors. I have to go into the color profile and turn all the colors way down. YMMV.

P.S. I'm currently considering another color-adjustment, and/or an e-ink monitor. I have an awful migraine from going through full brightness during the adjustment process, so it's hard to compare the effects.

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Each person's eyesight is different biologically; some like to have their devices dim & some want a brighter screen in order to read comfortably.

My needs are different than yours & claims that dimmer or brighter is "best". Grey on grey is not readable for me especially when some fonts are becoming "slimmer" to present more white space.

For me, brighter on the eink means that the background 'milky' white & the black letters are darker. A dim screen means eye strain; my retinas are shaped differently & probably more eye spots than you. Customization of devices is necessaary for comfortable reading no matter what the device is called. A blanket statement of "e-ink is better" is similar to saying "everyone knows that" or paid reviewers for magazines claiming a certain device is "perfect" for reading in the ipad.
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And for pain from pulse-width modulation, we're supposed to turn the brightness up again.
Which ereader is giving you "pain from pulse-width modulation"?
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