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Old 04-17-2011, 08:02 PM   #46
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Fingerprints are the result of action of our eccrine glands which leave sweat marks, mostly water and salt, on any screen types. To deny that is infantile.
And yes, I have used Sony readers, I just don't like them (or Sony, for that matter, a freedom hating company which actually installed rootkits and backdoors on computers until they got caught).
But hey, if you don't see fingerstains on your Sony, that's great. To each its own. Just don't tell me about a) physics-defying miracles b) what kind of readers I have or have not tried, ok?
Another thing. Your forensic analysis of fingerprints not withstanding, you are missing a very important (in fact, COMPLETLY defining) point. The VISIBILITY of fingerprints is the issue here, not the fingerprints themselves, and, while your definition of "fingerprints" is impressive, to say that they would be equally visible on, say, a mirror, as they would be on, say, concrete, is infantile and asinine. The coating that Sony uses is EXTREMELY resistant to fingerprints (the visibility of them). That is the issue here, and, given your above average intelligence (as you so proudly displayed when you defined the word "Fingerprints" for us), I'm utterly shocked that you missed it.
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:08 PM   #47
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After typing this I pulled out my 350 and can say, beyond any question, that there isn't any sort of smudge, mark, or fingerprint on this little beast, despite the fact that I read for 2-3 hours per day, have done so since I got the machine in early February (2.5 months ago), and have not ONCE wiped down the screen. The extent of my cleaning of the screen has been to blow on it gently whenever there is a hair, or piece of lint, dust, or anything else. There is litterally not a mark on the screen.
I never see any fingerprints on my PRS-350 screen, either, despite heavy use. My iPad, on the other hand, is constantly full of fingerprints. I have to wipe it down quite often.
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:25 AM   #48
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I never see any fingerprints on my PRS-350 screen, either, despite heavy use. My iPad, on the other hand, is constantly full of fingerprints. I have to wipe it down quite often.
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Old 04-18-2011, 06:13 AM   #49
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Hi all,

my 302 also shows very little in the way of smudges or deposits from fingers, though I admit I clean mine every couple of months or so.

The iPads I've seen though (mainly in shops) do look, ummm... grubby.

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Old 04-18-2011, 05:26 PM   #50
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Yeah, I have an Ipad also, and, it's horrendous as far as showing fingerprints. Not the same as the touchscreen readers from Sony, though. Completely different screen.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:04 AM   #51
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And now, after that commercial break from the Sony Defense Force, we return to our scheduled programming:
http://armdevices.net/2011/04/17/pocketbook-360-plus/

Charmax caught the PB360+ at a trade show.
The video clearly states 128MB RAM, 2GB Flash, 533MHz CPU, WiFi, and 16 grayscale Vizplex screen. No Pearl so Pearl-only afficionadoes can start their carping in ten... nine... eight...

Good news is it looks like they're retaining the case and cover. (Yay!) And the flap buttons, too. (uh... okay, I guess.)

Bottom line: faster CPU and screen, WiFi, more RAM and onboard storage, no messing with the ergonomics.
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And now, after that commercial break from the Sony Defense Force, .
LOL. They really remind me of Mac users. I had no idea that Sony was also a cult. I wonder who their Steve Jobs is though
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:17 AM   #53
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Bottom line: faster CPU and screen, WiFi, more RAM and onboard storage, no messing with the ergonomics.
No obvious improvement regarding case, cover, buttons and build quality. I'm a little bit disappointed.
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:39 AM   #54
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Well, yes, Pearl would have been nice. No compelling reason to upgrade as far as I can tell.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:04 AM   #55
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Hate to go back to the Sony advertisements, but looks like I made the right decision to get the 350 as an upgrade instead of waiting for the new Pocketbook model. I was a huge Pocketbook supporter, but if they aren't even upgrading to the Pearl screen, in my opinion, there's no improvement. (I don't care for Wifi on my reader). I've used the Sony now for a couple of weeks, and even though I really loved my Pocketbook 360, I haven't picked it up since. The Sony really is that much of an improvement. Pearl screen being the main thing, but it's SO much faster, page turns, loading books, etc.
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Hate to go back to the Sony advertisements, but looks like I made the right decision to get the 350 as an upgrade instead of waiting for the new Pocketbook model. I was a huge Pocketbook supporter, but if they aren't even upgrading to the Pearl screen, in my opinion, there's no improvement. (I don't care for Wifi on my reader). I've used the Sony now for a couple of weeks, and even though I really loved my Pocketbook 360, I haven't picked it up since. The Sony really is that much of an improvement. Pearl screen being the main thing, but it's SO much faster, page turns, loading books, etc.
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:40 PM   #57
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Pot...meet kettle...

It's funny you are calling us Sony fanboys. I'm not at ALL a Sony fanboy, in the sense that most everything they make is, in my opinion, drastically overpriced in comparison to it's competition, including, by the way, their cases/covers for the very machine on which I am vehemently heaping praise.

Having said that, they got it right with the PRS-350 (not so much with the 650 and 950, in terms of pricing) and, I'm simply pointing out that they have significantly better/upgraded hardware in comparison to the PB360, at a lower price. Sounds like a win/win. It also urked me that someone who has clearly never seen one up close (I played with BOTH the Sony and the PB, before buying one, extensively), gave his/her opinion about fingerprints.

There isn't any comparison on the two machines. One is a Honda, and the other is a Mercedes. And, it just so happens that the Mercedes is less expensive than the Honda. There is almost NOTHING you could use to say the PB is superior, except for the included case, and the ability to us flash storage. Everything else isn't even close.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:21 PM   #58
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Why are people touting Sonys in a Pocketbook thread?

Having said that, I love my PB360 and one of the main things I love is the way I can organise it to my hearts content. How does the Sony file structure work? It is user operated or Sony operated?

To me, that's the selling point. Now, I'm being serious, not a smart ass, I really have no clue about Sonys.

ETA: Just noticed that it doesn't support HTML, which puts it out of the market for me. I have thousands of HTML files that I won't be converting.

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Fingerprints are the result of action of our eccrine glands which leave sweat marks, mostly water and salt, on any screen types. To deny that is infantile.
And yes, I have used Sony readers, I just don't like them (or Sony, for that matter, a freedom hating company which actually installed rootkits and backdoors on computers until they got caught).
But hey, if you don't see fingerstains on your Sony, that's great. To each its own. Just don't tell me about a) physics-defying miracles b) what kind of readers I have or have not tried, ok?
So you are telling me what I see or do not see on MY 650? I just finished reading about 50 pages with my 650 and when I look at the screen, I actually see more spots then fingerprints. The process of why we see fingerprints is irrelevant to what we actually see on the matt finish eink screen. What is relevant is what we actually see. And yes, every so often, it does need a screen clean. But that's not an issue really. Even my 505 needed a screen clean and it didn't have a touch screen.

Freedom hating company? That's slander. You don't have to like Sony. But that's no reason for slander.

You say you've used Sony Readers before. Having owned/used most Sony Reader 6" models, I can say the x50 line is definitely different enough to the previous ones to say they don't really matter when checking out the x50 line. Have you used any of the x50 line?
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