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Kumabjorn · 09-16-2010, 02:56 PM

I think I understand copyright issues to the extent that an author who has been dead for 50 years will be PD.

Hence, any author that met his maker in 1961 will leave the protected world of copyrights in a few months time.

Hence, my curiosity. Are anyone of you guys working on books written by authors who perished in 1961 (I suppose it is possible to use the internet for a compilation)? Is it possible to release E-books of those authors come Jan 1 2011? Or do you have to follow the date of their demise?

speakingtohe · 09-16-2010, 03:07 PM

I am pretty sure Blackmask or project glutenberg do something in this area

brecklundin · 09-16-2010, 03:08 PM

oh, it's too easy...never mind..

jgaiser · 09-16-2010, 03:08 PM

In the United States it's life plus 70 years. That said *I believe*, if your country is life plus 50, books are public domain on Jan 1 of the 51st year.

Lady Fitzgerald · 09-16-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

I think I understand copyright issues to the extent that an author who has been dead for 50 years will be PD.

Hence, any author that met his maker in 1961 will leave the protected world of copyrights in a few months time.

Hence, my curiosity. Are anyone of you guys working on books written by authors who perished in 1961 (I suppose it is possible to use the internet for a compilation)? Is it possible to release E-books of those authors come Jan 1 2011? Or do you have to follow the date of their demise?

Depends on if the current owner of the rights renews them or not. With rare exceptions, you can pretty much expect anything since 1923 will never be PD.

Mike L · 09-16-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

I think I understand copyright issues to the extent that an author who has been dead for 50 years will be PD.

Kumabjorn,

I see you are in Sweden. Sweden is a signatory of the Berne Convention. As in almost every country in Europe, the copyright term there is 70 years from the death of the author, not 50.

Mike L · 09-16-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

Depends on if the current owner of the rights renews them or not. With rare exceptions, you can pretty much expect anything since 1923 will never be PD.

As far as I know, the only country that has provision for renewing copyright (in literary works) is the USA. Similarly with the 1923 rule. Those provisions don't apply generally.

Fbone · 09-16-2010, 04:42 PM

In the US no book will enter public domain before 2019 unless the current law changes.

Or if copyright holder states such, I believe.

HarryT · 09-17-2010, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

I think I understand copyright issues to the extent that an author who has been dead for 50 years will be PD.

Hence, any author that met his maker in 1961 will leave the protected world of copyrights in a few months time.

Hence, my curiosity. Are anyone of you guys working on books written by authors who perished in 1961 (I suppose it is possible to use the internet for a compilation)? Is it possible to release E-books of those authors come Jan 1 2011? Or do you have to follow the date of their demise?

Books enter the public domain at the start of the year after the 50th or 70th anniversary of their death. Hence, on 1st Jan 2011, authors who died during 1960 will enter the public domain in life+50 countries, and authors who died during 1940 in life+70 countries.

You (and I) both live in a life+70 country.

Kumabjorn · 09-17-2010, 10:38 AM

But we can publish those works in countries that have the life + 50 years rule, can't we? I'm thinking this is one of the benefits of the Internet, borders no longer make it possible to maintain rules like that.

HarryT · 09-17-2010, 10:39 AM

MR can host them, since MR's server is in Canada, which has a life+50 copyright law. But neither you nor I can legally download such a book from MR. Whether or not that bothers you is of course a personal matter for you to make up your mind about.

Kumabjorn · 09-17-2010, 10:44 AM

This is fascinating stuff. Could I download it if I was visiting in Canada?

I can't believe how intricate these rules are.

HarryT · 09-17-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

This is fascinating stuff. Could I download it if I was visiting in Canada?

I can't believe how intricate these rules are.

Yes, you could download it if you were visiting Canada, and what's more, you could perfectly legally take it home to Sweden with you from Canada. But you can't legally download it from Sweden.

I know it doesn't make any sense, but that's the way it is.

SensualPoet · 09-17-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

MR can host them, since MR's server is in Canada, which has a life+50 copyright law.

Really? I had no idea. How cool, actually. No housing crisis, no bank failures, no sub-prime mortgages ... and hosting MobileRead as icing on the cake.

The True North, Strong and Free.

SP,
In Toronto

09-16-2010, 02:56 PM	#1
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	1961 I think I understand copyright issues to the extent that an author who has been dead for 50 years will be PD. Hence, any author that met his maker in 1961 will leave the protected world of copyrights in a few months time. Hence, my curiosity. Are anyone of you guys working on books written by authors who perished in 1961 (I suppose it is possible to use the internet for a compilation)? Is it possible to release E-books of those authors come Jan 1 2011? Or do you have to follow the date of their demise?

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09-16-2010, 03:07 PM	#2
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	I am pretty sure Blackmask or project glutenberg do something in this area

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brecklundin Banned Posts: 1,906 Karma: 15348 Join Date: Jun 2007 Device: mine	oh, it's too easy...never mind..

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jgaiser Omnivorous Posts: 3,281 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1	In the United States it's life plus 70 years. That said I believe, if your country is life plus 50, books are public domain on Jan 1 of the 51st year.

09-16-2010, 04:42 PM	#8
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,189 Karma: 100500000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	In the US no book will enter public domain before 2019 unless the current law changes. Or if copyright holder states such, I believe.

09-17-2010, 10:38 AM	#10
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	But we can publish those works in countries that have the life + 50 years rule, can't we? I'm thinking this is one of the benefits of the Internet, borders no longer make it possible to maintain rules like that.

09-17-2010, 10:39 AM	#11
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	MR can host them, since MR's server is in Canada, which has a life+50 copyright law. But neither you nor I can legally download such a book from MR. Whether or not that bothers you is of course a personal matter for you to make up your mind about.

09-17-2010, 10:44 AM	#12
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	This is fascinating stuff. Could I download it if I was visiting in Canada? I can't believe how intricate these rules are.

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