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Old 10-07-2014, 11:08 AM   #1
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Now format shifting is legal in the UK ...

... does that mean something like $1 book scan would be legal too, or is it only legal if you do it yourself?
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:14 AM   #2
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... does that mean something like $1 book scan would be legal too, or is it only legal if you do it yourself?
I'm no lawyer, but what makes it legal in the US is the fact that it's a destructive scan - you don't get your book back. That would probably make it legal in the UK, too, I'd imagine. But who knows? These things don't always work logically!
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:51 PM   #3
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I'm not a lawyer, and laws aren't always logical or consistent, but I don't think a process needs to be destructive to be legal here in the US. The obvious example is music, where I can rip MP3s from my CDs or LPs* without needing to destroy them. However, I cannot get rid of either the originals or the copies, since they count as "back ups." If I want to sell my old CD I have to delete the MP3 copies.

I would think that a non-destructive scan would be legal if the original was returned to me, as long as I kept it for as long as I kept the copy.


* I rip and clean up LPs as a hobby. I have some great MP3s, but I also keep each LP I rip. I have a bunch of big plastic bins full of LPs in the basement.
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Old 10-08-2014, 03:35 AM   #4
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I'm not a lawyer, and laws aren't always logical or consistent, but I don't think a process needs to be destructive to be legal here in the US.
It does if you're getting someone else to do it for you. That's the issue here - the legality of a service that scans books for you, rather than you scanning it yourself.
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I'm no lawyer, but what makes it legal in the US is the fact that it's a destructive scan - you don't get your book back. That would probably make it legal in the UK, too, I'd imagine. But who knows? These things don't always work logically!
So it works Ultraviolet - one gives back the DVD to the shop and receives the right to access it in a cloud. Since it has customers it shows that stupidity was not eradicated from Earth inspite of mandatory schooling system.
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