Semantics > Text

tinmug · 02-17-2016, 11:38 AM

I have the following set with Semantics:

Cover
Title Page
Copyright Page
TOC
and Text – where I intend the book to open and revert to when Go To – Beginning is pressed

In Kindle Preview I have had zero luck getting the book to open anywhere but the Title Page (which is the first page of the originating – InDesign – file).

I have checked for duplicate entries in the content.opf file, and the epub gets a clean audit with ePub Checker.

What on earth am I missing?

EDIT: have double-checked – the OPF does list the items outlined above, and from what I can gather in the correct format.

DiapDealer · 02-17-2016, 11:50 AM

You'll have to search out the various threads where kindlebook designers are beating their heads against the wall trying to get that feature to a) work consistently, or b) not get changed after uploading to KDP. There's nothing specific to Sigil that can be done about it though. You'll just have to try one of the numerous "this works for me" techniques out there and see if one works for you. Check the kindle formats subforum for ideas. This one was a popular one: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=191387

tinmug · 02-17-2016, 12:15 PM

Thanks DiaDealer, I'll have a sniff around.
It beats me why Amazon would make this process so ... convoluted.

st_albert · 02-17-2016, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinmug

Thanks DiaDealer, I'll have a sniff around.
It beats me why Amazon would make this process so ... convoluted.

To be honest, there's a lot of things Amazon / KDP does that I find puzzling as well.

Albert

tinmug · 02-17-2016, 12:43 PM

I have gone from not liking them much to downright avoiding them. ;-)

Doitsu · 02-17-2016, 01:36 PM

@tinmug: If your ePub is an ePub3 book, KindleGen will ignore the guide section and look for the corresponding landmarks section entries.

Notjohn · 02-17-2016, 01:41 PM

In my experience, it's impossible to set the SRL in the KDP. No matter what you do (and believe me, I have tried every kludge anyone has posted here), it will be over-ridden in the actual publishing workflow -- which is to say, after you've finished messing with the book. Some claim to have broken the cipher, but they never post the secret sauce, or they provide something that I cannot replicate. Amazon seems to want the SRL to be the first page of the main text, and supposedly enforces that desire upon the rest of us, even though it's not always achieved in practice. (The middle of the TOC seems to be a popular place to dump those who try to work around it.)

tinmug · 02-17-2016, 02:15 PM

@Doitsu, @Notjohn
Thanks for your input. I can live with that for now.

02-17-2016, 11:38 AM	#1
tinmug Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2016 Device: iPad, Kindle Paperwhite	Semantics > Text I have the following set with Semantics: Cover Title Page Copyright Page TOC and Text – where I intend the book to open and revert to when Go To – Beginning is pressed In Kindle Preview I have had zero luck getting the book to open anywhere but the Title Page (which is the first page of the originating – InDesign – file). I have checked for duplicate entries in the content.opf file, and the epub gets a clean audit with ePub Checker. What on earth am I missing? EDIT: have double-checked – the OPF does list the items outlined above, and from what I can gather in the correct format. Last edited by tinmug; 02-17-2016 at 11:44 AM.

02-17-2016, 11:50 AM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,547 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	You'll have to search out the various threads where kindlebook designers are beating their heads against the wall trying to get that feature to a) work consistently, or b) not get changed after uploading to KDP. There's nothing specific to Sigil that can be done about it though. You'll just have to try one of the numerous "this works for me" techniques out there and see if one works for you. Check the kindle formats subforum for ideas. This one was a popular one: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=191387 Last edited by DiapDealer; 02-17-2016 at 11:54 AM.

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02-17-2016, 12:15 PM	#3
tinmug Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2016 Device: iPad, Kindle Paperwhite	Thanks DiaDealer, I'll have a sniff around. It beats me why Amazon would make this process so ... convoluted.

02-17-2016, 12:43 PM	#5
tinmug Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2016 Device: iPad, Kindle Paperwhite	I have gone from not liking them much to downright avoiding them. ;-)

02-17-2016, 01:36 PM	#6
Doitsu Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,584 Karma: 22735033 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2	@tinmug: If your ePub is an ePub3 book, KindleGen will ignore the guide section and look for the corresponding landmarks section entries.

02-17-2016, 01:41 PM	#7
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,515 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	In my experience, it's impossible to set the SRL in the KDP. No matter what you do (and believe me, I have tried every kludge anyone has posted here), it will be over-ridden in the actual publishing workflow -- which is to say, after you've finished messing with the book. Some claim to have broken the cipher, but they never post the secret sauce, or they provide something that I cannot replicate. Amazon seems to want the SRL to be the first page of the main text, and supposedly enforces that desire upon the rest of us, even though it's not always achieved in practice. (The middle of the TOC seems to be a popular place to dump those who try to work around it.)

02-17-2016, 02:15 PM	#8
tinmug Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2016 Device: iPad, Kindle Paperwhite	@Doitsu, @Notjohn Thanks for your input. I can live with that for now.