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Old 05-17-2019, 07:48 PM   #46
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She did use the word bait, and as I said before I do understand why she used that word, but she didn't use it till after the fact. After Jack had followed her instead of Bod. I don't think Bod had ever considered using her as bait. He did use himself as bait though and was completely willing to do that. .
Ah - I guess I misunderstood what he was doing, in all the excitement. It’s silly I know, but I tend to rush through the scary parts of books, so I can make sure everyone gets out ok.
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Bring on the Adventures of the Honor Guard! These are the types of questions that I think are fun for young readers to spark their imaginations. I didn't have to know the answers to these questions while reading, but they would be fun to explore in other books. I agree that I like that we don't exactly know what Bod does next.

It appears he is considering a sequel to The Graveyard Book. Also, he does list Silas as being one of his favorite characters, "the kind of characters who never stand in the spotlight, but who make the book work."
http://www.mousecircus.com/meet-neil-gaiman/

This interview with Publishers Weekly is especially insightful.
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/...il-gaiman.html
I read a bit about the possible sequel in the afterword Gaiman wrote in the Anniversary Edition of the book. He said that it might not go back to the graveyard. But will it go back to Scarlet? I liked that quirky relationship and it seems that Scarlet has certain powers of her own.

Their parting had such a bitter-sweet quality. It would be nice if they met again somehow.

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Here I must quote Bod himself: ‘It wasn’t like that.’

At least not consciously. We might argue whether the Bod had this in his mind unconsciously (even Bod may be wondering that), but the hiding place was chosen as what seemed the best and most secret place in the graveyard.

The lead up to hiding Scarlett went:

This doesn't sound like Bod making plans to use Scarlett as bait.
No it doesn’t! Thanks for the quotes and setting me straight gmw. I wanted to go back to the passage and reread it, but had already released the book back to the library. I have a bad habit of rushing through the tense moments in books to make sure everyone’s ok - an occupational hazard. Apologies to Gaiman and Bod’s friends for maligning him
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Do the initials provide a clue as to what Gaiman thought of her? Scarlett Amber Perkins--SAP.
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Seems a bit of a stretch, Catlady. Though goodness knows authors have done stupider things.

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Perhaps there is more significance in the choice of names being colorful and warm. She represents the living outside world in contrast to the faded Bod and invisible ghost people. Or it even contrasts with the coldness of the name Jack Frost. Also it is ironic that in her first adventure with Bod as small children they encounter the Indigo Man, another use of colors in a name.
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I AM joking, but really--Gaiman never thought to change the last name? Smith, Jones, something that didn't create an insulting three-letter word? Guess he never visited a baby names site advising parents to be careful about things like this.
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Do the initials provide a clue as to what Gaiman thought of her? Scarlett Amber Perkins--SAP.
Now who’s using Scarlett as bait?

(sorry, I couldn’t resist )
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I think of the definition of sap as being someone who is either overly expressive about their emotions or someone that is a gullible fool. I think she was the latter when she got into the car with the stranger Jack, befriended him and that was what enabled him to get close to Bod.
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Reverting back to the ancient tomb under the hill, and its guardian The Sleer: I have just finished reading The Second Jungle Book and was struck by Gaiman’s adaptation of the story called “The King’s Ankus”.

The original is very powerful, and Gaiman has “translated” it very effectively.
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When I read this, I couldn't help thinking of other works set in graveyards, especially where the dead are animate and interact with the living. One of my favorite books from last year was George Saunders' Lincoln in the Bardo. Another fairly recent read of mine is Peter S. Beagle's A Fine and Private Place, set very recognizably in Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx. Then there's the drama Our Town.

I'm starting from this point to say that I felt there were a lot of shout-outs to other works, as has been mentioned above. The first thing I thought of with the Macabray was Mary Poppins. And surely Silas is borrowed from Buffy? Can you see a reference to the Bishop of Bath and Wells, as portrayed here, and not think of The Black Adder? (Well, I couldn't.)

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When I read this, I couldn't help thinking of other works set in graveyards, especially where the dead are animate and interact with the living. One of my favorite books from last year was George Saunders' Lincoln in the Bardo. Another fairly recent read of mine is Peter S. Beagles' A Find and Private Place, set very recognizably in Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx. Then there's the drama Our Town.

I'm starting from this point to say that I felt there were a lot of shout-outs to other works, as has been mentioned above. The first thing I thought of with the Macabray was Mary Poppins. And surely Silas is borrowed from Buffy? Can you see a reference to the Bishop of Bath and Wells, as portrayed here, and not think of The Black Adder? (Well, I couldn't.)
I too thought of Beagle's Fine and Private Place, though I read that so long ago that details are fuzzy--basically, all I remember is the graveyard setting and no unicorns.
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I too thought of Beagle's Fine and Private Place, though I read that so long ago that details are fuzzy--basically, all I remember is the graveyard setting and no unicorns.
I haven't read either book, so that's a couple more for the TBR list.

I hadn't realised there was the possibility of finding unicorns in graveyards. I must investigate further.
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This wasn't a funny book in general, but Nehemiah Trot provided some comic relief. I laughed at loud when he counseled Bod about Scarlett, "Oh! You must go to her and implore her. You must call her your Terpshichore, your Echo, your Clytemnestra."
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One of the things I loved was the way we were given an individual's tombstone words along with his or her name:

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