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Old 05-22-2019, 06:31 AM   #121
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You have already Tesla that via software gave more battery autonomy to people escaping from an hurricane.
That is something different as they merely bypassed safeguards that are in place for a good reason. It is no different than disabling a governor that prevents excessive speed.
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:42 AM   #122
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That is something different as they merely bypassed safeguards that are in place for a good reason. It is no different than disabling a governor that prevents excessive speed.
It's been done already in other areas purely on a feature basis, not for safety. e.g. https://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?s...doc_id=1320941

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Have you ever had to decide between two models of hardware from the same manufacturer that differ only in a feature or two? For example, you know you'd love to have a little extra bandwidth on your oscilloscope but found the additional cost of the higher-end model a bit prohibitive?

Well, it isn't unheard of for a company to actually release identical hardware in multiple models with the "additional" features present, but disabled on the lower-end versions. In some cases, these features can actually be unlocked!
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English is not my primary language and i wasn't meant to say anybody did anything.
I'm just reflecting on the interesting fact that software is eating the world.
An hw company can have a single product line and enable different level of service, based on software
But you have matched that concept to CLEARink without expressing a foundational ground for the match. It is not just you have pointed to a substantially random couple in the street and went "ah, but all this adultery nowadays, it's the trend", it is that the way you expressed it makes little sense in the context, the couple having all the looks of underage siblings.

In order to make those displays, the way I understand them, only show "greys", firmware-wise they would have to cut the resolution in half... Who would do that? And still it would not look like "grayscale", because a red-gren-blue-white mixture hardly looks like grey, which is only "emulated" after the filter!
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:59 AM   #124
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That is something different as they merely bypassed safeguards that are in place for a good reason. It is no different than disabling a governor that prevents excessive speed.
Tesla used to sell hardware identical battery packs with different kwh ratings. The lower kwh ratings were enforced with software. I used to think it was for sleazy marketing reasons, but apparently not enough low rated batteries were ordered to make manufacturing them feasible, so the crippled batteries were provided on cars preordered with the smaller battery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S#Battery
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This type of thing is extremely common in computer hardware sales. The functionality is there, you just have to pay for the proper license to unlock it.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:50 PM   #126
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Tesla used to sell hardware identical battery packs with different kwh ratings. The lower kwh ratings were enforced with software. I used to think it was for sleazy marketing reasons, but apparently not enough low rated batteries were ordered to make manufacturing them feasible, so the crippled batteries were provided on cars preordered with the smaller battery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S#Battery
Incidentally, according to the linked article the limitation was removable through upgrade, which combined with an expected reduced preorder price makes enough sense.
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In 2013, Tesla canceled a 40 kWh version of the car due to lack of demand, saying that only 4% of pre-orders were for the 40 kWh battery option. Customers who ordered this option instead received the 60 kWh pack, with charge software-limited to 40 kWh (139 miles, 224 km). It has the improved acceleration and top speed of the bigger pack and can be upgraded to use the full 60 kWh

Which is not even what I would necessarily expect from Tesla, which has some highlights like employing Lex Fridman but also a history of fully lunatic falls. It can make sense, while the original idea of a tinting layer mesmerizing customers to become invisible upon firmware flag does not.

Now, how is this relevant? Are expecting display technology from Tesla or their batteries being employed in information management computing?

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This type of thing is extremely common in computer hardware sales. The functionality is there, you just have to pay for the proper license to unlock it.
I am sure CLEARink will sell displays that aren't yours until you buy them.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:12 PM   #127
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Old 05-29-2019, 11:16 PM   #128
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Road signage, in dash car displays and the like....yes. General purpose, mass market tablets? Not a chance in hell until a LOT more breakthroughs are achieved
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:43 AM   #129
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Please show a bit more respect.

2 weeks ago CLEARink confirmed to me that so far front light has not been optimized yet.

Compared to the first lighted eink ereaders it looks good.

First lighted eink ereaders:
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:20 AM   #130
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Respect? What they are showing is having folks here drooling for a tablet...but what they are showing is NOWHERE EVEN CLOSE to the needs of even a tablet aimed at text books. And nobody is going to choose such a tablet over other tablets with great screens.

Battery life just isn’t that big a deal once “all day” is reached...compared to not being able to see full color photos.

We already know that, far and away, most people have no trouble reading on tablets. Some do...thus a NICHE might put up with a terrible colors.

We already have single purpose readers based on eInk. So the “I want to read ebooks but don’t like tablets and don’t need color” niche is filled.

So you have an even smaller target market to entice those who can’t stand a modern tablet screen and eInk isn’t filling their needs....and while they need color, only a crappy amount of color.

This is not the makings of a mass market product...UNTIL...they can come up with photo quality color AT video rates.

And if they had that...they’d show it. That they are going to market with this level of color....means they aren’t close to having it
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"CLEARink Wins People’s Choice Award At SID’s Display Week 2019"

Obviously you were not among those people that voted for CLEARink.
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"CLEARink Wins People’s Choice Award At SID’s Display Week 2019"

Obviously you were not among those people that voted for CLEARink.
Nope...but I might well have. There are a good number of use cases this technology AS PRESENTED would be terrific.

It’s just nowhere near “mass market tablet” ready. And may never be.

Take the text book use case. Is it the screens that have hindered the adoption of iPads in the classroom? No. Is it the price? Only partially. Mostly it’s the form factor of a tablet isn’t as useful overall and Chrome books have stolen the educational market.

Will ClearInk change ANYTHING about this situation? Not at all...,not unless it’s Apple itself that adopts it. Schools don’t need devices, they need systems. That’s why cheap Android tablets have found no foothold at all...and it’s why I say that the price of the iPad is only partially responsible for its failure to truly take off in the education market.

If you can only have one device....you need a keyboard, web driven device. If you can expect students to have a PC at home or in the classroom...AND you can afford iPads too....then you will get iPads.
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We already have single purpose readers based on eInk. So the “I want to read ebooks but don’t like tablets and don’t need color” niche is filled.
They don't 'need' doesn't mean they don't 'want' color. The niche would switch in a heartbeat if offered a competive screen to eink with color
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We already know that, far and away, most people have no trouble reading on tablets
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No we don't know. Yes they do.
Given the undeniable fact that sales of tablets enormously outstrip those of eInk devices, and that owners of such devices read on them frequently (even if only websites and email messages), I’d suggest that it’s perfectly reasonable to conclude that most people are indeed happy to read on tablets.
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