01-01-2010, 04:18 PM | #106 | |
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I agree, it's too early to be certain it'll be on the market right away (their projection was 2nd half 2010), but they're not just some small hopeful startup with a vague proof of concept. |
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01-01-2010, 04:30 PM | #107 |
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Ekaser, you're right with the question of what we define as niche... and of course, we're all in that tiny minority who read *lots* as opposed to the sports pages and the packaged-for-the-short-of-attention web news pages, blogs, and (gawd help us) twitters.
So perhaps the question might be not 'will eink be supplanted by xxx technology?' but 'what will be the technology on the bulk of hand-held devices?' You are almost certainly correct that the majority of tablet-style devices will be high-speed refresh displays in full colour, and probably backlit... but those tablets are likely to be massively multi-functional devices; probably equivalent to a laptop with the screen on the outside. And it's likely that those will be used for reading ebooks. But that will not be the primary use for them. I strongly suspect that there will be stand-alone book readers, and displaying books is either all they will do, or will be their primary function... and that they will have a display compromised in some way but which still offers a good *reading* experience. |
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01-01-2010, 04:37 PM | #108 |
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The niche of eink dedicated book reading devices will be around for another good 5 years. It will take that long (or longer) for LCDs to get up to those high resolutions which have zero eye strain.
So people who 'just' want to read books on a device with clarity comparable to print will stick to e-ink readers. Of course the mainstream public demands the devices also do high def video, internet, chat, video conferencing etc. So the mainstream will have super advanced devices which do all of that + e-books. Hardcore readers like us will have dedicated niche e-ink devices for a few years yet. Last edited by fugazied; 01-01-2010 at 04:39 PM. |
01-01-2010, 05:57 PM | #109 |
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first of all, I gotta say I stopped reading after the first few posts ...
when it comes to e-ink vs. coloured lcd screen with backlight ... I can read for hours on my e-ink device without a problem. Recently, I read a short text on my computer monitor and my eyes hurt. Of course, I am sure you can't compare my 5 year old monitor with some new devices, but still ... I am really satisfied with e-ink and I don't see a reason why I should get away from it ... |
01-01-2010, 08:15 PM | #110 |
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Yep, no reason for you to change. I have no reason to ditch my Kindle for novel reading either.
I just need something suitable for reading and marking up academic PDFs etc., so I look forward to seeing what happens on the tablet front, as well as large screen readers like the Que etc. |
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01-01-2010, 08:47 PM | #111 |
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I was talking to a friend of mine this past week--she received a Kindle for Christmas. The one thing she wanted was the ability to backlight so that she could read in bed. I told her about the clip-on lights and we discussed pros and cons. In the end, I think her solution will be to read on the iPod Touch at night so that she has the backlight.
I think the key takeaway for me is that with a reader, ideally you would have both--some situations you don't want backlighting, some you do. The other takeaway was that the younger generations EXPECTS backlighting and don't mind it. In fact, she had never thought of any reason to not have it and wasn't certain that not having it was a good thing (she could read just fine on the Kindle, but wondered why it was the way it was.) Whoever can come up with a device that allows for both wins. :>) Maria |
01-01-2010, 09:02 PM | #112 |
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Does your friend have a lamp next to her bed?
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01-01-2010, 09:06 PM | #113 |
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She might read while her significant other is sleeping etc. and need something less bright than a lamp.
I use a clip light and it works, but a back light would be better for that instance. |
01-01-2010, 09:48 PM | #114 |
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Can EInk Scroll?
That's the one thing I miss from reading on my Treo with Mobi-pocket. The ability to scroll and never having to touch the page advance button. My new Sony doesn't do that, and I really miss it.
I'd be open to other technology if it could scroll. |
01-02-2010, 03:55 AM | #115 |
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E-ink refresh rates are pretty slow, so that's probably why they can't scroll currently.
Personally, I prefer flipping pages to scrolling--as it's more like reading a paper book. |
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Anything with an LCD panel has the potential to be able to auto-scroll like a PDA. I love that feature on Mobi-reader on my Clie because the Clie has a "jog wheel" on the left side, where it belongs , letting you dynamically control the scroll rate. |
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01-02-2010, 05:10 AM | #117 | |
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The same happens with "smart quotes". People use that to mean "curly" or "oriented" quotes. The "smartiness" is only in the text processor that converts straight quotes into curly ones... |
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01-02-2010, 09:38 AM | #119 |
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As the next poster guessed--her husband doesn't want a light on while he's trying to sleep! The little clip lights would probably work, but the iTouch will likely end up as the answer since they already own one. Of course the iTouch was HIS Christmas gift last year so I think I just ungifted it with my suggestion and it will be in the hands of the giver...
As for the e-ink/opaque versus backlighting--yes, I know the current technology doesn't allow for backlighting. My point was that something should be invented that DOES allow for both. Obviously it won't be e-ink as we know it; it'll have to be some ultra cool device invented by aliens whose technology is more advanced than ours...our just a couple of guys in a garage (which seems to be where most really cool inventions happen--something about gasoline fumes, I wonder??) Maria |
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The best suggestion I've ever heard of is a reflective roller shade (or some equivalent) that slides down between the backlight and an active LCD panel. Me, I'll stick with two devices, a PDA and a reflective screen. If you prefer reflective screens like eInk, buy a reading light. Besides, your mother told you not to read in a dark room, you'll ruin your eyes. And eat more roughage, too. And... Regards, Jack Tingle |
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