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At any rate, I've heard several people claim King went downhill after the publication of The Shining or The Stand or whatever early book of his they really liked. I disagree, but to each his own. |
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I picked up Kristine Kathryn Rusch Retrieval Artist series with the same hopes - mostly standalone mystery series, set on the moon. And it mostly was, although like some mystery series, they did build on each other and it would be harder to treat them like true standalones. Then she wrote the "Anniversary Day saga" - 8 flipping books with an overall "evil warlord" type of arc. I hate those types of stories. I read the books, and enjoyed them although to a lesser degree than the others, because I'm hooked on the characters. But I'd have been happier to just have some more mysteries for the hero to solve. Quote:
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06-13-2018, 10:05 PM | #20 | |
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Marking a downhill (as per my own tastes in reading) is very difficult with Stephen King; he has always been one of those that I had very mixed responses to. When he was on form (to my tastes) he was very very good, which is why I kept coming back for so long. By the mid-to-late 90s it had gotten so that I was no longer rushing out to get his latest book, and by mid 00s it got so I was only buying selected books. And now it's rare I buy any of his at all. If you look at the publication dates for the Dark Tower series you will see some correlation there. I admit that correlation does not necessarily mean cause, but Dark Tower was certainly not something that helped his cause with me. This thread is talking about first books of series, but I tend to think about authors rather than a series. When I find an author I like, I keep looking at their work, and if they've been very good on some occasions they get a pass for being bad (to my tastes) on others - as King did over a few decades. |
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06-14-2018, 03:01 PM | #22 | |
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06-14-2018, 06:29 PM | #23 | |
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One series that got better for me was the Deryni books, by Katherine Kurtz. The first trilogy (and especially first book) really shows her inexperience as a writer and world builder. The subsequent two trilogies are some of my favorite books ever. |
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Sometimes the first book in a series is the best; the author used up most of his material. Sometimes a series improves on a good beginning as they author finds his groove. But virtually all series which are not wrapped up in good time end up deteriorating in the long run and the reader wishes the author had been able to let it go before everyone got tired of it and a good experience turned stale.
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That's my experience as well. The later category tends to go from "wow that was great" to "nice solid read, but not something I would stay up all night reading".
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Great topic. I think the Terry Pratchit (sp?) series Discworld is one that they get better as you go along. Or so I hear. I'll never know because I didn't like the first book.
I MIGHT have pressed on if the second book was supposed to be a lot better. But I hear things like "oh, it's in book 6 that..." So no...not going to ready 5 books in hopes that the 6th book gets really good. |
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Funny, before reading your reply I wrote about Discworld which I didn't like the first book...but fans of the series say "in book x it gets good" and the x changes but is never book 2
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06-15-2018, 11:49 AM | #29 | |
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So, yes Pratchett gets much much better, but if a reader finds nothing appealing in the first book I wouldn't insist they continue. However much better he got, he still sounded like Terry Pratchett. |
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06-15-2018, 11:53 AM | #30 | |
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As for where to start, there are several sub-series within Discworld that are great reads. I think the two best starting points are Guards! Guards! (City Watch sub-series) or Equal Rites (Witches sub-series) but you can really start with the first book in any of the sub-series. I agree with this too. |
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