06-10-2008, 06:50 AM | #1 | |
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PVI screen shipments: the real(?) numbers
Vladimir Levchenko of the MUK company (makers of the lBook - Ukrainian version of Jinke's Hanlin) was quite sceptical of the much touted Evan Schnittman's estimate on Kindle and Reader shipments. He provided his own numbers, reportedly directly from his talks with PVI management.
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** he says Lenovo is part of the FoxConn/HonHai conglomerate. Well, I'd take this with a grain of salt (he's been wrong in some of his claims before), but these numbers are much more beleivable to me. Last edited by igorsk; 06-10-2008 at 06:53 AM. |
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06-10-2008, 08:55 AM | #2 |
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That sounds much more realistic. We know (from peoples' order numbers) that Bookeen are shipping around about 2000-3000 Gen3's per month, which would equate to 10-15% of PVI's screen output. If Amazon are getting, say, 50% of the output (10,000 screens a month) that would put their Kindle sales at about 3-5x what Bookeen are selling, which seems reasonable to me.
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Not that 100,000 (guesstimate) is anything to sneeze at for a new device, in fact, in pre-iPhone days, that would probably be a respectable number. But it is hardly knocking sales out of the ball park. He's keeping sales figures quiet as to not scare off Amazon investors who would probably start to question the Kindle. Unfortunately, in today's world, if something isn't a run-away bestseller or immediate box office block buster, or sells 1,000,000 units in 30 days for example, investors start to get antsy. And even though the Kindle is selling consistently (good, stable numbers for (probable) long term success), Amazon doesn't need investors crying to the press saying the Kindle is a "failure" because it didn't post huge sales numbers. Last edited by Walk Broad; 06-10-2008 at 02:29 PM. Reason: spelling error |
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Er, actually, no.
Whereas I think Apple entering the e-book market would be a tremenodus boon for e-books and reading devices overall, I'm waiting to see the Astak model or will be getting the eBookwise 1150 if the 5-inch Astak doesn't live up to expectations. |
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Since the Kindle and Cybook Gen3 and Sony readers are all "relatively new," my general rule of thumb for equipment sold (ratios) is the comparing the number of people browsing each of the forums over a period of time (say every hour for a day or two, or same clock-time over a few days). Within a small percent error, this *should* give us the ratio of the number of units sold on each.
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If you don't go with Astak, I don't want to hear any complaining about eyestrain.
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There are eyestrain problems with the eBookwise 1150?
No one told me! I sure hope Astak comes through then |
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Many people experience eye-strain with light-emitting screens. It's very much a personal thing, however.
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The only device they seem to really develop is the 9-inch one, which really looks quite different to the other sizes. |
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The Sony Reader has a 6" screen. The 5" model does not have a 6" screen. |
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I'm sorry if this came off as Anti-apple, but I think they put too much focus on how a product looks and it's "cool" factor. They do some good stuff, but they're not the end-all when it comes to design. |
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