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Old 11-19-2018, 08:10 AM   #1246
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Nobody is saying otherwise. Unfortunately, however, the majority of self-published books do not fall into this category, hence our requirement that self-published books only be advertised in these threads on the basis of personal recommendation.
Also acceptable is when a self-published book was originally traditionally published and the author has reacquired the rights.
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:58 PM   #1247
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Nobody is saying otherwise. Unfortunately, however, the majority of self-published books do not fall into this category, hence our requirement that self-published books only be advertised in these threads on the basis of personal recommendation.
Sorry. Again!

I should have quoted j.p.s., who said, "They may be a small percentage, but aren't there quite a few first rate authors that are self published?"

My point was, yes, I think that there must be quite a few first rate authors based upon the fact that 1) this gentleman is one, and 2) the circumstances that caused him to leave the traditional publishers are probably faced by other authors like him, and they leave the traditional publishers for the same reason(s) that he did.

The rule is excellent. The quality of the books posted would suffer if the door was opened to any self-pub.

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Old 11-19-2018, 11:07 PM   #1248
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Also acceptable is when a self-published book was originally traditionally published and the author has reacquired the rights.
Hmmm . . . . it seems that it would take a quite a bit of research to learn that information. And where would you go to find out that information? Would WorldCat have it? I'm wary of OpenLibrary now.
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Hmmm . . . . it seems that it would take a quite a bit of research to learn that information. And where would you go to find out that information? Would WorldCat have it? I'm wary of OpenLibrary now.
Usually there is a copyright date and even a first published by line.
Or look for old print editions under See all -- formats and editions

So https://www.amazon.com/Over-Death-Mi...dp/B07JCRHGV6/

and use Look inside.

Of course if the author changes the title or their pen-name more work can be needed.
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Or (for fiction books) look on "Fantastic Fiction". They don't list self-published books, so if it's there, it's been commercially-published at some point.
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Or (for fiction books) look on "Fantastic Fiction". They don't list self-published books, so if it's there, it's been commercially-published at some point.
I really wish there was a site similar to Fantastic Fiction for non-fiction books.

But if people go to the 'Adult' part of FF they do have some self published books. Or they will keep an authors book posted if they start as published and change to self or if the self published author is very highly rated.
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Or (for fiction books) look on "Fantastic Fiction". They don't list self-published books, so if it's there, it's been commercially-published at some point.
Depends what you mean by, eg when self published and then by a commercial publisher promised for later

https://www.fantasticfiction.com/b/l...master-bujold/

Title: The Prisoner of Limnos January 2019 : USA Hardback
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Or https://www.fantasticfiction.com/l/s...-diligence.htm
Pinbeam books is the author.
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Or (for fiction books) look on "Fantastic Fiction". They don't list self-published books, so if it's there, it's been commercially-published at some point.
Haven't done any extensive looking, but at the very least I know they list self-pubbed books where an author started out a series with a commercial publisher, but is self-pubbing later volumes. So they do have at least some books that were self-pubbed from the get go.
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Bear in mind that the rule isn't that no self-published books should be listed here. Only that if you want to list a book that's been self-published, you should have read the book yourself (so that you can vouch for its quality).

Or as the first post puts it "Unless you have read them yourself, think they are excellent, and you're not connected to the author in any way".
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