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I guess we are now getting pretty far away from books, but I'm going to myself if I implied something other than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU7fkPnEOI If a few Justice Department Antitrust Division press leaks can intimidate corporations into keeping my last link free, without punishing Apple executives, or the company's innocent stockholders, I won't be unhappy. It certainly is IMHO a less harmful use of public funds than going after book publishers. Here's another link I much hope stays free: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05pU6l4PEJw Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 05-08-2015 at 10:08 PM. |
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Come again? Did you just say they made a business decision? Or am I reading this wrong? Is that how you sleep better at night? Well, of course it is legal what Apple is doing by wanting a 30% cut and making sure they get it. But I fail to see how that isn't forcing.
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Jailing executives serves as a warning to other executives to not commit anti-trust violations. I ending up in jail is a viable result of an executive's proposed business strategy, that strategy will be adjusted until that risk goes away. And don't think that Apple executives are safe from this. They are currently in the anti-trust doghouse, and if they are found guilty of a different one (or even not cooperating with the original sentence), the judge may decide to really drive home society's displeasure with such behaviour. Last edited by murg; 05-09-2015 at 05:41 PM. Reason: Change would to wouldn't in first sentence. oops... |
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It's instrumental to note that both the eBook and these music allegations deal with parts of Apples business that aren't even core to it's existence. And as long as it's the small potatoes parts of its businesses, US judges will continue to render small potatoes responses to any convictions for wrongdoing. |
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So yeah... unless someone's gonna get put in jail, let's just let little illegal stuff slide. And if a corp breaks laws in performing piddly portions of their business, let's ignore those too. Let's just focus on proceedings where we KNOW we can put some privileged white-collar exec in an orange jumpsuit! 'Cause you know ... antitrust is all about smackin' smug executives and nothing else. It's not about trying to look out for the consumer or anything like that.
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If Apple is found guilty of the latest accusations, they are definitely exhibiting a pattern of illegality. This is what judges look for when deciding sentences. If there is a pattern of illegality, the RICO statues may kick in.
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Apple has created a highly successful consumer digital platform. They are then selling the right to utilize that platform, by demanding 30% shares in business done through that platform. It is then up to businesses to decide whether they want to cooperate. Some do, some don't. Yes, it is a very dirty move by Apple. It isn't fair to app makers. It also isn't forcing, they are free to focus on Android development/sales, which I hope they do. "Forcing" would be if they needed to sell through an iOS app, and they couldn't without agreeing to those terms. They don't need, they want. (You can tell they weren't forced to pay 30%, because they chose instead to not sell through the app.) Last edited by eschwartz; 05-11-2015 at 09:01 PM. Reason: because of nitpicking |
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Oh well I am tremendously sorry that I didn't lay out the metaphorical neon signs indicating I was talking about... um... ebook retailers selling digital goods.
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