Hiding endnotes after the last page of an epub2

[HHJT]

Hello,

I converted a OO writer document into epub2 with Writer2epub. The document has endnotes which are now correctly in the epub (I've changed the style a little with Sigil).
Ofcourse every device/app deals with endnotes in a different way: My Kobo Glo shows a pop-up. iBooks switches to a screen where all the endnotes are listed. ADE switches to a screen with just the specific endnote. Calibre reader show the endnote at the bottom of the app.

All that is fine. But after the last page of the document my Kobo Glo lists all the endnotes. ADE even lists them on separate pages (there are twelve). Calibre does the same thing. Only iBooks does is correctly: the document ends at the last page—no endnotes!

Is there a way to hide endnotes at the end of a document, thus only showing them when clicked upon? I've tried hiding their visibility in CSS with no result (obviously).

[jhowell]

You can mark the HTML file containing the endnotes as linear="no" in the spine, but according to the EPUB specification reading systems are allowed to ignore this.

I disagree about what it "correct". Personally, I like endnotes to be visible at the end of a book. It is easy to miss a reference to one while reading.

[JSWolf]

ADE ignores linear="no" so that's not a solution. I don't mind the endnotes being at the ennd.

[Notjohn]

I don't mind either. Indeed, like Jhowell I rather like it. It lets me down easy and, in the case of Kindle editions, puts off Jeff Bezos's irritating suggestions for further reading (and buying).

[Turtle91]

Well, it seems like you could use the linear="no" technique...which will work for all devices/apps that support it...then just make sure they are styled correctly so they are not too unpleasant to look at for those who use devices that don't support it.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by jhowell

I disagree about what it "correct". Personally, I like endnotes to be visible at the end of a book. It is easy to miss a reference to one while reading.

Originally Posted by Notjohn

I don't mind either. Indeed, like Jhowell I rather like it. It lets me down easy and, in the case of Kindle editions, puts off Jeff Bezos's irritating suggestions for further reading (and buying).

What they said. (Both reasons.)

[HHJT]

Hello and thanks for replying.

Since there is no solution for every device/app, is there a way to make them look more or less the same: a header followed with a list of the endnotes? ADE for example is showing a page with just the header followed by an endnote per page.

[Turtle91]

I would think that is something peculiar to that epub...something in the css maybe?? Do you have an example of the html/css you could post here?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Well, it seems like you could use the linear="no" technique...which will work for all devices/apps that support it...then just make sure they are styled correctly so they are not too unpleasant to look at for those who use devices that don't support it.

RMSDK (ADE) is the most widely used software for reading ePub on a Reader. It does not support linear="no". So most of the time, it won't work.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HHJT

Hello and thanks for replying.

Since there is no solution for every device/app, is there a way to make them look more or less the same: a header followed with a list of the endnotes? ADE for example is showing a page with just the header followed by an endnote per page.

ADE does not show headers.

You could use one file with pagebreaks to separate the endnotes or one file for each endnote.

[Turtle91]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

ADE does not show headers.

You could use one file with pagebreaks to separate the endnotes or one file for each endnote.

Seems like ADE is fairly limited... lolz

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by Turtle91

I would think that is something peculiar to that epub...something in the css maybe?? Do you have an example of the html/css you could post here?

Agreed. We do scads of books with endnotes, and I've never had that occur, with each endnote on its own page. ???

BTW: good god, where would endnotes GO, if they were effectively invisible? In a print book, they--gasp--go at the END, those sneaky bastards. Why wouldn't they appear in the same place in an eBook?

Am I simply being thick as two planks? Endnotes can either go at the end of a chapter, or the end of the book. Amazingly, some folks don't like to read the endnotes on the fly; they read them (cough) at the END. for those folks, if yon endnotes were invisible, or hidden, when would they get their opportunity to read them?

Me, I'm a devourer of endnotes and footnotes, references, the whole schmear. So, I read them on the go. But a lot of ppl don't, and they need them in a reliable spot, I should think.

Hitch

[BetterRed]

For a moment I was thinking we had a new type of book. Is Hitch referring to one diminutive in size, or one where the story flows from start to finish without any stops or starts. Or has a big brewer followed a well known British butcher into the ebook business

BR

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

For a moment I was thinking we had a new type of book. Is Hitch referring to one diminutive in size, or one where the story flows from start to finish without any stops or starts. Or has a big brewer followed a well known British butcher into the ebook business

BR

Snort...yes, now they come in pints, either dark or light, lager or ale.

Geeze, can't you cut a girl a break? I'll go fix it. (hangs head in shame--a TYPO, ye gad!)

Hitch

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Snort...yes, now they come in pints, either dark or light, lager or ale.

Geeze, can't you cut a girl a break? I'll go fix it. (hangs head in shame--a TYPO, ye gad!)

Cut you a break, you should be thankful that someone is even bothering to read your posts To relieve the boredom of having to take one breath after another with no respite I sometimes make deliberate mistakes, but rarely does anyone notice

Added : Now I have a smartphone, I use it for reading the endnotes whilst reading the main text on a tablet or PC. The sort of stuff I read often has multiple endnotes for the same passage; also means I can look back when I perceive a contradiction or anomaly, and take sneak peeks at what's coming up.

It's the only useful thing I've found it can do that I couldn't do before. I've browbeaten the telco into turning mobile data off - permanently.

Picked up a copy of Anna Beer's Milton biography recently from a streetside library. If I can figure out how to scan the 40+ pages of endnotes and references I can do the same.

BR