can I format horizontal rules?

[justerman]

I'm creating a book that includes horizontal rules (i.e. the <hr> tag). The rules are visible in my book but they are faint and I'd like to make them more noticeable.

I've tried adding the following to the style sheet:
hr {height: 10px;}
but the formating seems to be ignored.

So my question is: has anyone succeeded in formatting horizontal rules in a kindle book, and if so, how?

Thanks.

[tomsem]

You might embed an image.

[PoP]

In my Nadsat dictionary I use

        <style>

           hr {
                 border: white;
                 background-color: #992211;
                 height: 6px
            }
            ...
        </style>

and it works fine.

[HarryT]

Moved to the Kindle Formats forum.

[GrannyGrump]

It probably depends on which format you are using.

If you are converting from epub to AZW3, yes you should be able to format your <hr> to be thicker (I have used as much as 8 pt.)

But if you are converting to OLD Mobi, I think that will not honor any such styling. Anyway, when I ran a test conversion, my fat 6-pt <hr> turned out very anorexic, looking only like 1 pixel.

You might try putting a second <hr> underneath the first so you have a very widely-spaced double line. Otherwise, for old Mobi, as Tomsem suggests, an image might be your best option.

[justerman]

Works fine for me too. Thany you PoP.

[justerman]

I’m using kindlegen to convert from html to .mobi (I assume old mobi in your terms), then I email the doc for Amazon to convert

PoP’s code works fine for me. I don’t know why mine was deficient

Thanks for responding.

[RbnJrg]

Originally Posted by justerman

So my question is: has anyone succeeded in formatting horizontal rules in a kindle book, and if so, how?

Thanks.

If you are going to work with .kf8 (not the old .mobi format) then don't use <hr> tags but "borders" since you can do whatever by styling borders. For example, watch the borders I employed in the following screenshots of a .kf8 ebook:



You can do something like that by reducing the height of <hx>, <div> or <p> tag to 2 or 3px and then to style the upper and bottom border as you wish. Of course, all that only works with .kf8 (not old .mobi).

Regards
Rubén

[justerman]

Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

It probably depends on which format you are using.

If you are converting from epub to AZW3, yes you should be able to format your <hr> to be thicker (I have used as much as 8 pt.)

But if you are converting to OLD Mobi, I think that will not honor any such styling. Anyway, when I ran a test conversion, my fat 6-pt <hr> turned out very anorexic, looking only like 1 pixel.

You might try putting a second <hr> underneath the first so you have a very widely-spaced double line. Otherwise, for old Mobi, as Tomsem suggests, an image might be your best option.

Thanks GrannyGrump. I do produce a .azw3, and PoP’s style has worked for me.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by RbnJrg

If you are going to work with .kf8 (not the old .mobi format) then don't use <hr> tags but "borders" since you can do whatever by styling borders. For example, watch the borders I employed in the following screenshots of a .kf8 ebook:

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You can do something like that by reducing the height of <hx>, <div> or <p> tag to 2 or 3px and then to style the upper and bottom border as you wish. Of course, all that only works with .kf8 (not old .mobi).

Regards
Rubén

Rubén:

I would also mention that from time to time, we've seen border coding backfire in the iOS devices. I don't remember all of it, right off the top of my head, but...it seems to me that it's the one area, in iOS, where it's almost like you're still dealing with KF7, rather than the updated KF8 that iOS now displays pretty well.

Offered solely FWIW...if someone comes along and has an issue, they'll know that they're not the only one.

Hitch

[RbnJrg]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Rubén:

I would also mention that from time to time, we've seen border coding backfire in the iOS devices. I don't remember all of it, right off the top of my head, but...it seems to me that it's the one area, in iOS, where it's almost like you're still dealing with KF7, rather than the updated KF8 that iOS now displays pretty well.

Offered solely FWIW...if someone comes along and has an issue, they'll know that they're not the only one.

Hitch

Hi Hitch;

It's good to be aware of what you said. Particularly, I didn't know about that "border behaviour" with Kindle under iOS. It's also very good to have an expert in Kindle like you in this forum since we can always learn something new.

Regards
Rubén

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by RbnJrg

Hi Hitch;

It's good to be aware of what you said. Particularly, I didn't know about that "border behaviour" with Kindle under iOS. It's also very good to have an expert in Kindle like you in this forum since we can always learn something new.

Regards
Rubén

Aw, c'mon...I just see a lot of stuff. I'm no expert. Seriously. These days, I mostly push paper and answer the phones, LOL!

But thanks for the kind words.

Hitch

[RbnJrg]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Aw, c'mon...I just see a lot of stuff. I'm no expert. Seriously. These days, I mostly push paper and answer the phones, LOL!

But thanks for the kind words.

Hitch

Perhaps the words were kind but it does not stop being true