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Old 04-05-2010, 05:30 AM   #121
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I have a laptop--and always will as I work at home, when traveling and need the storage space, power for my statistical analysis programs, HD video etc. And netbooks just don't have the power to do that stuff.

So my need is for a reader/net goofing device, video watcher etc. to supplement my laptop. .../...

And as you note, the form factor is much better. It's much more comfortable to hold and read, surf the net etc. on the ipad than having a netbook in your lap. .../...

In any case, I was impressed with the iPad after playing with my girlfriends for a good bit. I'll defintely get some type of tablet device over a netbook. My laptop takes care of my portable computing needs. I need/want something that's more just for media consumption, and tablets are much better for that IMO

But to each their own of course. There's nothing wrong with netbooks, they just don't fit my needs at all. Too underpowered for my computing needs, and don't like laptop form factor for a media consumption device.
The point I kept from that post are exactly the "make or die" points for me... Thank for saying it much better than I could ever say it...

I would add one thing though...

The advent of the iPad is probably going to make one collateral damage for me and Apple (Maybe), the death of the iPhone. I don't foresee too many further use for me of an iPhone when I have an iPad. In fact, I guess that I'll keep the iPhone till it dies and then switch back to a normal phone. Some very basic one on which I can give and receive calls and that's it.
Most of my lightweight, truly "on the move" computing need being fulfilled by the iPad.

Maybe I am mistaken, but...
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:22 AM   #122
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The advent of the iPad is probably going to make one collateral damage for me and Apple (Maybe), the death of the iPhone. I don't foresee too many further use for me of an iPhone when I have an iPad. In fact, I guess that I'll keep the iPhone till it dies and then switch back to a normal phone. Some very basic one on which I can give and receive calls and that's it.
Most of my lightweight, truly "on the move" computing need being fulfilled by the iPad.

Maybe I am mistaken, but...
I Was thinking on same line. at home i don't like using my laptop, so i use iphone & kindle Dx for my all needs, but after receiving ipad i may not like to use iphone's tiny screen any more. i will use my current iphone 3gs till it lasts and not going to buy any new iphone.
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I for sure don't think it will be the "death" of the iPhone, but I agree it will make an impact. My wife is already saying when her Palm Pre contract runs out with Sprint, she is just getting a regular cheap phone, and using her iPad.....
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #124
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Yeah, I've never had any interest in a smartphone, so that's part of the appeal of tablets to me I guess.

Maybe I'd feel less need for one if I had a smart phone and a laptop. But I don't need internet, e-mail etc. on the phone enough to pay for data plans as I'm spend the vast majority of my time at home or at the office, stay in hotels with wifi when I travel etc. so I wouldn't use it enough to justify the $30+ a month for data plans.

But I'm very interested in tablets as a more full featured e-reader, a "surf the net" on the couch" machine, random apps, watching videos in bed etc. And playing around with my girlfriend's iPad this weekend just reaffirmed that I do really want and enjoy using something of that form factor.

Just a matter of waiting a bit, letting more tablets come out, and making sure I get the best one for my needs.
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:26 PM   #125
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The advent of the iPad is probably going to make one collateral damage for me and Apple (Maybe), the death of the iPhone.
Me too. When my contract completes in the next month or so, I'm going back to a normal phone and keeping my iPhone as an "ipod touch". Just don't want to pay that $30/mo data fee anymore.

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Old 04-06-2010, 09:13 PM   #126
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I for sure don't think it will be the "death" of the iPhone, but I agree it will make an impact. My wife is already saying when her Palm Pre contract runs out with Sprint, she is just getting a regular cheap phone, and using her iPad.....
Interesting. I definitely see myself using a tablet and a smartphone once the right tablet comes along, but I can imagine plenty of people I know doing just what your wife wants to do.
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:46 PM   #127
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Interesting. I definitely see myself using a tablet and a smartphone once the right tablet comes along, but I can imagine plenty of people I know doing just what your wife wants to do.
I think that an ipad coupled with a smartphone (like your tp2) is a great solution, especially since you can turn that tp2 into a hotspot. No need to pay outlandish data speeds when one can tether, although I would never do that, Sprint.

Having said that, I went to play with an ipad tonight and fell in love. Thank goodness it had some strong weakenesses that counterbalanced my desire to purchase it! Weaknesses for me would include: paying for a vnc app, paying for a slingbox app, and lack of google doc support. Of course I still may buckle

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Old 04-08-2010, 04:07 AM   #128
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:20 AM   #129
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iasnt google docs on the web, is it flash?
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:39 AM   #130
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It is on the web, but reports are that one can not edit google docs from safari. Hopefully a fix will be in the works before too long.
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I for sure don't think it will be the "death" of the iPhone, but I agree it will make an impact. My wife is already saying when her Palm Pre contract runs out with Sprint, she is just getting a regular cheap phone, and using her iPad.....
Depending on how much one uses data and the phone, this can save really HUGE amounts of money. Given that many data plans are expensive, you could easily pay for an iPad (or maybe two) with what you save in a year.

We used to have phones with a good voice plan and basic messaging that cost us about $130/month for two phones. This was w/o data, BTW. We looked at the very small amount of voice time and the zero messaging time we were using, did some calculations, and went to a T-mobile prepaid voice only. $100 for 1000 minutes that are good for a year and then roll over if you buy another 100 minutes for 10 bucks. It works out that it now costs about $28 per YEAR per phone averaged over 5 years.

I use my iPod touch at hotspots for data for zero cost and have a 3G iPad on order that I can use for this but only pay for the 3G when I travel and use it. That plus now I will not need to bring either my iPod touch or my Kindle or my laptop when I travel!

My savings in plans over the last couple years has way more than paid for the iPad.

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Old 04-08-2010, 12:06 PM   #132
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The iPad is an excellent reader, very interactive. R.I.P. e-ink
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:56 PM   #133
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I really think that you can't say that with objectivity but I agree that it would fade the eink monopoly away and diversify the "display types" field for readers.

One thing is sure is that now, finally, we have a decent reader for magazines ans coffee table books. Has anybody seen a hint of that last one so far?
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iasnt google docs on the web, is it flash?
Not sure. I think I read you can view documents in google docs, but you can't edit them.

Didn't think to check that myself. I don't make much use of Google docs personally anyway. Just a spreadsheet of Beer ratings myself and a fellow beer loving friend keep updated.
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Ipad sounds good and I have one ordered, but it is, by all accounts, way to heavy to hold with one hand and needs to be "propped" on something for lengthy reading. It also is not great in bright light. I do not think these can be solved with present tech.

What we really need is something that:

1) Is as power efficient and lightweight as e-ink
2) Has color display as good as a print magazine or LCD/OLED screen
3) Has fast reaction times for video
4) Can be used either backlit or not, depending on the environment, w/o loss of any of the above characteristics.
5) Is as cheap or cheaper than present tech.

As far as I know, no one is even close to the above.

I plan to use both Kindle and iPad, depending on the content and situation.

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